Phoenix · 2025-03-05 · council
Phoenix City Council Formal Meeting - March 5, 2025
Summary
Summary
- Meeting Minutes Approval: The council unanimously approved the minutes from previous meetings held on October 2, October 16, and October 30, 2024.
- Boards and Commissions Nominations: The council unanimously approved nominations for various boards and commissions.
- Liquor Licenses: The council approved items related to liquor licenses, excluding specific items for further discussion.
- Reconsideration of Housing Items: The council unanimously approved the reconsideration of housing-related items, highlighting the importance of affordable housing.
- Public Comments: Numerous residents expressed concerns about proposed developments, including the impacts on neighborhoods, safety, and community needs, particularly regarding a proposed counseling facility.
Overview
The Phoenix City Council meeting included discussions on multiple agenda items, including the approval of meeting minutes, nominations for boards and commissions, and liquor licenses. The council addressed housing issues, with unanimous support for reconsideration of items related to affordable housing. Public comments featured concerns from residents about proposed developments, especially regarding their potential impacts on community safety and character. The meeting emphasized the need for continued engagement with community members and responsiveness to their concerns.
Follow-Up Actions or Deadlines
- Continued communication with community members regarding housing developments and concerns raised during public comments.
- The council will review and respond to additional public feedback on proposed projects, particularly the counseling facility, to ensure alignment with community needs and expectations.
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e good afternoon we'll begin with an invitation from police chaplain John Taylor please stand bow your heads and pray with me please dear wise and loving father first let me say thank you on behalf of all who are gathered here today thank you for your many blessings and thank you for life itself we thank you for the ability to be involved in useful work and for the freedoms that we enjoy in this great nation you have said that citizen should obey the governing authorities since you have established those very authorities to promote peace and Order and Justice and so I pray for our mayor for the various levels of City officials and in particular for this assembled Council I'm asking that you would graciously grant them wisdom to govern a sense of the true needs and Welfare of our people a confidence in what is good just and right the ability to work together in harmony personal peace in their lives and joy in their work I pray for the agenda set before them today please give them Assurance of what would be pleasing to you and what would benefit those who live and work in and around our beloved City of Phoenix it's in your Most Blessed name I pray amen thank you chaplain Taylor please join me in the pledge Alle of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under Gody andice We Now call to order the formal meeting of the Phoenix City Council will the clerk call the role councilman Galindo here councilwoman wado here councilwoman Hodge Washington here councilwoman Pastor here councilman Robinson here councilwoman Stark here councilman wearing here vice mayor O'Brien here mayor gigo here thank you for joining us we have a packed agenda and we're celebrating an important birthday today so we're hopeful for a very good meeting I'll begin by in introducing our interpreter Mario baras and Elsie dwarte Mario would you introduce yourself for our Spanish speaking audience yes mayor thank you good afternoon as mayor said my name is mid wahas and together with h the other part of my team El larte we're going to be serving as Spanish interpreters for today's formal meeting I'm going to take a moment now to introduce ourselves to our Spanish speaking audience thank you mayor thank you Mario will the city clerk please read the 24-hour paragraph the titles of the following ordinance and resolution numbers on the agenda were available to the public at least 24 hours prior to this council meeting and therefore may be read by title or agenda item only ordinances number G 7359 7362 2 and 7364 through 7368 s515 s51 673 and s51 683 through 51 721 and resolutions 22277 through 22282 thank you will the City attorney please explain public comment yes thank you mayor members of the public may speak for up to two minutes to comment on agenda items comments must be related to the agenda item in the action being considered by the council General comments that go beyond the scope of the agenda item must be made in the citizen comment session at the end of the agenda the city council and staff cannot discuss or comment on matters related to pending investigations claims or litigation additionally any member of the public who appears before Council in their capacity as a lobbyist must as required by Phoenix city code disclose this fact before addressing Council the city code requires speakers to present their comments in a respectful and courteous manner profane language threats or attacks on members of the public council members or staff are not allowed a person who violates these rules will lose the opportunity to continue to speak thank you so much we'll now go to the meeting minutes councilwoman Stark IEM have you had a chance to review item one yes I move to approve October 2nd 2024 minutes second we have motion and second any corrections all those in favor say I I I any oppose nay passes unanimously item two councilwoman Pastor I approve hang on sorry I approve 1016 2024 uh formal meeting minutes second any comments all those in favor say I I any opposed councilwoman guado item three yes I would like to move to approve the meeting minutes on 10:30 2024 second we have a motion and a second all those in favor please say I I any oppos nay motion carries item four boards and commissions vice mayor do you have a motion I move to approve mayor and city council boards and commissions nominations second we have a motion and a second all those in favor please say I I I any oppose nay we have a distinguished group of Phoenix leaders to be sworn in for a variety of positions including Village planning commissions I will ask them to come forward now please raise your right hand I state your name do solemnly sare swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States support theit of the United States and the Constitution and laws of the State of Arizona law of St AR that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same iar true Fai and defend them against all enemies en foreign and domestic for Dom and that I will faithfully and impartially will fath andar discharge the duties of the office of State your office according to the best of my ability so help me God thank you for serving our community and [Applause] congratulations e congratulations to our new and returning Commissioners thank you for your service to our city we will next go to lior licenses we provide an advisory role to the State of Arizona on liquor licenses and I'll turn to the vice mayor for a motion I move to approve items 5 through 19 except 10 and 14 second second all those in favor please say I I any oppose nay passes unanimously we'll first go to agenda item 10 which is Brian's discount Market in District 3 councilman Stark do you have a motion yes thank you mayor I did receive a letter opposing V license from some of the neighborhood activists in the area however I understand staff thoroughly vetted it and they are recommended approval so I'd like to move forward with no recommendation second we have a motion in a second any comments roll call gind yes wado yes hudge Washington yes Pastor yes Robinson yes Stark yes wearing yes O'Brien yes goo yes passes 90 item 14 is in Council District 5 so I'll turn to councilwoman gado for a motion thank you mayor yes I would like to move on item 14 um no recommendation second we have a motion and a second roll call alv yes guavo yes hjge Washington yes Pastor yes Robinson yes Stark yes wearing yes O'Brien yes goo yes is 90 city clerk are we ready for ordinances resolutions new business planning and zoning yes mayor vice mayor do we have a motion I move to approve items 20 through 83 except the following items 39 40 41 59 70 71 and 79 through 83 noting that item 36 as is as revised item 40 9 is withdrawn items 41 81 and 82 have additional information and excluding the following additional items for public comment 53 and 73 and can the clerk confirm if there are any other items that should be excluded for in-person public comment yes mayor vice mayor also excluding item 46 also excluding item 46 all right so we have a motion did we get a second okay we have a second from councilwoman Stark roll call gind yes guado yes P Washington yes Pastor yes Robinson yes Stark yes wearing yes O'Brien yes GGO yes passes 90 all right next we go to item 39 uh this one was put on the agenda at the request of councilman galinda alira who is very passionate about housing I'll turn to him for a motion mayor I move to approve reconsideration request of item 37 from the February 19th 2025 formal meeting second item 399 I believe is the correct item no for reconsideration yes okay cool so and the motion was to approve 39 okay okay all right second with motion and a second from councilwoman Pastor uh this one will be a Voice vote all those in favor of reconsideration please say I any opposed passes unanimously uh item 40 is a reconsideration of a grant of a temporary easement uh councilman do you have a motion mayor I'd like to make a few comments prior to my motion is that okay um mayor I had the opportunity to meet with staff from the or organization um chos bakaa and I toured it with their their Executive Vice President Jose Martinez um it is a beautiful project that will provide affordable housing in a much needed area it is ADA Compliant with 10 dedicated spaces for um people um under the Americans with Disabilities Act it's good for district 7 as everyone knows there is that incredible need for affordable housing in Phoenix and district 7 will be one of the prim areas that that can happen and with that mayor I move to approve this item second we have a motion in second thank you for your due diligence on this project any additional comments roll call gind yes wado yes HJ Washington yes Pastor yes Robinson yes Stark yes waren O'Brien yeso yes passes 90 all right we next move to item 41 which is related to Tanner Thomas Village affordable housing uh do we want to I think he the speakers first all right we're going to go to the speakers on this one we'll begin online uh with commander reic and then we'll go in person to Kerwin Brown okay we have no audio from reic Jarvis reic can you hear us okay uh we will go in person to Kerwin Brown uh good afternoon mayor city council uh here we are again um after um having the community meeting that uh um uh uh that was was asked for us to to attend um councilwoman kaj Washington has offered up some conditions and we are satisfied with those accepting those conditions councilman did you have a did either of our councilwomen have a question I don't have any questions I heard uh Mr clearly he said he's understands the conditions that I articulated and I intend to articulate on a record and he's in agreement with that correct correct all right I guess um a question one of the the questions we were interested in was knowing about service providers uh can you tell us about your um yeah the current service providers and and the process you went through to select them yeah the the service provider that we we selected is is faithland um we are currently looking for additional service providers as well uh there is a Dr vaugh Who is um uh uh the head of of Faith land who is has credential impeccable credentials that work specifically with veterans and I um I I think that she will will be a great addition to being a provider to help with the veterans uh as as we open this this uh this facility great and then your Workforce provider is the Arizona elk Society can you tell us how you selected them and what they will do AR Arizona elk Society actually was referred to us I to be honest with you was not aware but when they I came when they came into my office and met and talked about their uh equin uh equin um uh um facility and how that they work with veterans on uh and and forgive me I I had more of this information the last time I was here but when they came and and talked about the therapy that uh that they work with veterans on I I also think that they'll be a great addition to um uh what we're providing to the veterans wonderful thank you and and our memo says that elk Society will provide job Readiness correct um what what are what are the fields well it's gent when they say job Readiness it's it's kind of just whatever job that you're looking for there's there's a process that uh people need to go through a lot of time Veterans as well as others uh to get ready for for uh to to go on interviews with jobs that's the type of job Readiness that um they're looking to provide and there's also well I'll wait I'll wait for for your next question no please continue well I was just going to say there's there's other um providers uh there's a veteran-owned business that provides uh jobs and job Readiness for specifically for Veterans as well it's um desert dogs desert yeah desert the name of it is des desert dogs they work with a lot of the construction companies uh to to do a lot of work they even will go pick up the veterans to not to to take them to the job sites to actually do the work uh and keep up with them there's it's it they also do a lot of the job Readiness as well as to to get them used to going to a uh 9 to5 pos position as well and working with them to make sure that they show up I mean because a lot of times you get somebody started if they don't continue to show up then they never complete the process wonderful thank you I think that is it for questions thank you and confirming we do not have audio for Commander reic okay he was marked as in opposition I believe that is all of our speakers all of our speakers all right we'll turn to councilwoman hjj Washington for a motion and comments thank you mayor I'll begin with my comments first and then I'll proceed to my motion um this is a project that the community spoke very very clearly about what they wanted to see the community was adamant that they are supportive of this type of project they had some concerns about the logistics and the day-to-day operations and to ensure that this does not become a burden to their Community um they were concerned about the level of service providers and some of the resources that were available uh that would be available on the site um I do have a lengthy motion um has been shared ahead with Mr Brown and he has indicated his consent to it but for the record I will read it into the motion so Jim I'm going to break my record of last time um because I wanted to make sure that the community safeguards were address so and it's written out if anybody wants a copy I move to approve item number 41 specifically direct and staff to include the follower requirements in the deed of trust or the Declaration of land use restriction agreement known as aura or the loan agreement as appropriate town or Community Development is required to one provide 40 24 hour 7 days a week security onsite to include monitored surveillance cameras and on-site security Personnel two form a community advisory committee to include representatives from the registered neighborhood associations veteran associations and community members within a one M radius of the project including but not limited to people United fight back and the American Legion Post 65 there shall be continued effort to engage the community by offering site visits to see how maintenance and operations are conducted and providing Community with proof of on-site Services three provide on-site in-person Case Management Services Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. utilizing the services of an organization that focuses on the veteran population with a track record of at least 10 years of experience there shall be in a place a process to promptly address emergency needs during off hours four ensure that its service providers are certified or licensed for the service Serv for which it is contracted to perform for service providers provided mental health or substance abuse Services the provider must also satisfy and comply with the criteria established by the substance abuse in Mental Health Services Administration or similar best practices five create an operational plan for the provision of services assessing the short-term and long-term impact of the community and evaluating the effectiveness of the services to the population being served the operational plan shall be shared with the community advisory committee and the city each year this plan shall be updated on an annual basis six track metrics related to employment retention utilization of services and other metrics important for the veteran population being served there must be a clear structured plan for maintaining sobriety addressing the long-term stability of the community and minimizing the impact to the nearby community the metric shall be shared with the community advisory committee and the city on a quarterly basis once a year a report on the effectiveness of the project shall be shared with the community advisory committee and the city seven provide a telephone number an email address for Neighbors to call and reach out with issues and provide a response within two business days to set complaints eight Supportive Services shall be funded through the project net incomeincome slash flow or that the recipient is put in required deposit into Supportive Services Reserve annually so they can fund services for the long term and nine these conditions still continue for the term of the Lowa the deed of trust or low in agreement whichever is longer second we have a motion in a second are there do you have additional comments councilwoman HUD Washington I don't have any additional comments other just hopefully say that um these conditions were not are not meant to be punitive but to ensure that the community's concerns were heard and they are documented in a manner that allows the community to have a say if they believe that these conditions are not being met thank you councilwoman Pastor thank you I just wanted to say I appreciate uh councilwoman hjge Washington's efforts and U meeting with the community and hearing the community along with Tanner in um understanding and able to come together and make it happen I want to appreciate all parties that were involved uh in particular Community because they were heard um the other piece is that uh the Elks uh ecoin therapy uh one of the things that I have to say when I I perked up when I heard that is I understand equin therapy and when I was first introduced to it I was like are you sure but it was a firefighter that demonstrated and show me the impact of ecoin therapy to our First Responders and so with great efforts I was able to create a program for our First Responders police and fire to participate outside of our internal health network uh to be able to get those Services of ecoin therapy um on a personal note during covid uh I was watching my kids really spiral and uh be in a an environment where there was no socialization so it was ecoin therapy that helped them during Co and the impact of what their mind can do to them in isolation and so I commend you for doing that um and it is a it's a great way uh to learn about yourself but also care for an animal so thank you thank you councilwoman do we have any other member comments do we have anybody else signed up on this item okay okay what but but she's not I guess signed in to sign up or to speak okay okay okay all right roll callind I'd like to explain my vote first um I I really want to thank councilwoman Hodge Washington for her diligence and her pursuit of making this project happen at a time when veteran are not being as respected in the way they should we have a duty to care for them and I really appreciate um the language that is in the requirements regarding Mental Health Services and compliance with samama it's important and we must do our part to honor our veterans and this is a good way of doing it and thank you so much for taking this issue up I vote Yes yes yes hudge Washington yes Pastor yes Robin son yes Stark yes wearing yes O'Brien yes passes 80 you move on to item 46 move to approve item 46 second and we have um Margaret Schultz to speak on item 46 good afternoon chair and council members my name is Margaret Schultz I'm here representing worker power uh we understand the importance of developing this site successfully given its proximity to the convention center and its economic significance as a city-owned asset that's why we recommend the city pursue options to lease the site leasing would allow the city to have long-term input over the project and make sure that it is something that is continuously benefiting the community as well as allowing the city to gain revenue over time recent research in the Yale law and policy review argues for government and Community stewardship to maintain the public character of Urban Land and keep development accessible to marginalized communities long-term leases play an important role in this process they can also help local governments recoup a portion of development windfalls according to the Lincoln Institute of land policy a previous Hotel development on City owned land the Edith faced setbacks due to financing challenges and was delayed for years leaving the lot underdeveloped after the land was finally sold it still took over a year for construction to begin a lease option would allow the city to have more flexibility and control it would also open new long-term Revenue opportunities to address the budget deficit this property is a public asset of the city let's keep public land in public hands thank you for the opportunity to speak thank you any additional comments roll call gind yes wado yes hjj Washington yes did I miss Pastor Robinson yes Stark yes wearing O'Brien yes gum yes passes 8 Z Item 53 is solar powered EV charging system contract do we have a motion I move to approve item 53 second we have a motion and a second we have a comment from Vladimir steuart hello my name is Vladimir and I live in Lauren pestor count um district and I'm a little bit sad that I saw that she left but I just wanted to ask the city um with the Iran P um will we still be able to get federal aid for this program and you have your full uh two minutes but it's not like a Q&A oh oh okay um so yeah so I'm for this project I just was wondering if we'll be able to use the federal funds that Biden pass with the IRA and um I'm not sure if we'll be able to use that federal funds to use for this program that we're going to be voting on on today thank you thank you we think so but we're not sure anyone add add anything to that right uh roll call valind yes wado yes hjj Washington yes Pastor Robinson yes Stark yes waren O'Brien yes GGO yes Pastor 80 item 59 is uh collaboration between district 7 and 8 I'll turn to councilman glendel AA for a motion mayor and comments to myle council Washington motion councilwoman thank you mayor um I move to approve item 59 and I would like the opportun to make comments a lot of my colleag second why don't you second that I'll second that to the councilwoman for comments it's a team effort thank you um as we celebrate women's History Month I'm proud to recognize a group of courageous women who played a pivotal role in The Farm Workers movement right here in our community these women were on the front lines marching rallying organizing voter registration drives and standing in solidarity with Caesar Chavez during his 1972 fast at Santa Rita Hall to protest laws that threaten the rights of IM of Migrant workers Santa Rita Hall is not just a building it is a symbol of our community's resilience and the birthplace of much of the social social change we've witnessed here in Arizona from its beginning in the 1960s as a place of community Gathering it became the epicenter of the Cho movement in Phoenix the installation of the abanita de la Moes Moes um de Mento sign topper near the Santa Rita Hall is significant because it was where a group of women some of which were from were Farm Workers others mothers and daughters were United in their fight for justice and dignity for those who work the land they organize and mobilize to fight for fair wages Humane working conditions and the right to collective bargaining their efforts were instrumental in the broader struggle for labor rights not only in Arizona but Across the Nation their contributions helped shaped history yet too often their names and sacrifices have gone unrecognized so we take an important step to ensuring their legacy honored this sign is much more than a marker it is a statement that the contribution of women in the farm worker movement will not be forgotten it serves as a reminder that women have always been at the heart of movements for justice equality and labor rights thank you once again to district 7 for making this important moment a reality your efforts ensure that this piece of history is preserved for generations to come and I deeply appreciate this collaboration to uplift our shared history thank you councilman mayor thank you and um I deeply appreciate the collaboration with Council wman KES haaj Washington it has been a main stay of my uh my uh service here on the council and um to honor the women of the movement is significant because without women there would have been no movement and this is an opportunity to say thank you to memorialize the work that they have done and to always remember the C thank you mayor thank you so much councilwoman Gord thank you mayor so just want to thank um councilwoman hush Washington and council member Galen Dela as a former or a union organizer and someone that knocked on a lot of doors with does wera this means the world to me and I know to all of the women that are out there and that have been inspired by all of these women um to join the labor movement to join the fight um and given in the climate that we're living in these days I really appreciate the two of you for all of your hard work and everything you guys did um to make this happen so this is very exciting and Monumental um for all of the women in in the movement thank you guys so much thank you I will Echo that congratulations to councilman galinda AA and councilwoman HJ Washington for bringing this forward during a month in which we celebrate women's history and also really important events in the history of Phoenix this will be a beautiful way to honor the contributions of Arizona Latinas and the fight for a fair and better Community it is um befitting to be near Santa Rita Hall it is one of the sites I'm most often asked about in the city of Phoenix and and urge to appropriately celebrate and we're appreciative that our two Council leaders are moving forward with this roll callind yes wado yes hjj Washington yes Pastor yes Robinson yes yes thank you Stark yes wearen yes O'Brien yes GGO yes passes 90 item 70 is next it is related to an item we had earlier in district 7 and I'll turn to councilman Glendo AA mayor I move for reconsideration second we have a motion in a second all those in favor please say I I any oppose nay and councilman uh motion on item 71 like its companion I am appreciative um to Cho for laaa for this project that will bring affordable housing to this neighborhood to this part of the community that desperately needs it and I move to approve this item second we have a motion and a second I think did um councilwoman pestor wish to say something oh she seconded it okay uh any additional comments roll call gind yes wado yes Hajj Washington yes pastor Pastor yeah thank you yes yes yes Stark yes waren yes O'Brien yes GGO yes passes 90 we next move to item 73 the approval of historic preservation exterior Rehabilitation grants do we have a motion I move to approve item 73 second we have a motion and a second we have Jeremy ther to provide comments Council uh last week a friend visited visit us and uh has a former neighbor who lived at the Pavilion right across the street from us he now lives in an old RV in a friend's driveway because his rent sh from under $1,000 to $1,700 why is he being forced to subsidize Home Improvements for $650,000 homes that contractually prevent more housing when historic preservation began in the 80s these neighborhoods needed protection they were the housing equivalent of an endangered species but unlike endangered species which lose protection toward the recover historic preservation has become a windfall for the fortunate the 24 homes receiving grants have an average value of $675,000 and $400,000 Plus in equity one home 508 West Portland is worth $1.5 million these homes are located in in Kanto Palm crop Willow Coronado and Windsor some of the most desirable neighborhoods in Phoenix with the highest appreciation and the most taxpayer funded amenities these are not the homeowners who need protection or subsidies if that's not enough these homes already pay half the property tax of non-historic homeowners so every 10 years the people on this list already see an average windfall of $25,000 paid for by the rest of us providing them additional taxpayer funds for Home Improvements isn't just irresponsible it's immoral alternatively for the same money we could help 55 firsttime home buyers with a $7500 payment match down payment match and instead of a tiny few in a small area in two districts benefiting IM matchine seven hardworking families in each district getting well-deserved assistance in purchasing their first home or we can just continue lining the pockets of those who are fortunate enough to not need it with the dollars those who do thank you thank you that concludes public comment roll call gind yes wado yes hjj Washington yes Pastor yes Robinson yes Stark yes wearing yes O'Brien yes GGO yes passes 90 item 79 is a public hearing related to 7th Avenue between Washington and Jefferson streets we will welcome our planning and development director for a brief introduction to this one thank you mayor members of the council I'll turn to to our deputy director Trisha Gomes for a brief presentation on 79 and 80 thank you mayor and members of the council items 79 and 80 are public hearings for companion items and can be heard together but will require separate actions item 79 is GPA cc-2 d247 a general plan amendment to update the place types for the 7th Avenue in Washington and 7th Avenue in Jefferson Station location for a median urban center to downtown core the median urban center has a scale of three to six stories with an incentive to 10 stories for medium intensity development the downtown core has a scale of six plus stories and has the highest intensity the planned light rails stations at 7th Avenue in Washington and 7th Avenue and Jefferson Street are located within the business core character area of the downtown code the business core is intended to function as a strong Regional Center for employment entertainment conventions tourism and cultural institution drawing visitors from around the country and attracting residents from throughout the region the greatest development intensity within the region should be located within this character area item 80 is the ta- 6- 24-7 a text Amendment to the down town code height and density maps for the properties from Adam Street to Jefferson between 7th and 8th avenues for the height the request is to change the maximum height from the existing 30 ft to a maximum of 250 ft for the density the request is to change the existing density from 14 12 units uh dwelling units per acre to a maximum of 218 dwelling units per acre the Central City Village planning committee has heard this item on January 13 2025 and recommended approval of both items per the staff recommendation by a vote of 10 to one the Planning Commission heard these items on February 6 2025 and recommended approval of both items per the Central City Village planning committee recommendation by a vote to 9 to zero staff recommends approval of GPA cc-2 24-7 per the planning commission's recommendation and adopt the related resolution and staff recommends approval of ta- 6-24 per the planning commission's recommendation and adopt the related ordinance happy to answer any questions thank you so much this is a really exciting opportunity 7th Avenue is a gateway to our downtown as are the streets in this area this is a chance to do some pretty fabulous architecture and bring much-needed amenities to this part of our city so many cities would be jealous of the opportunity to do this in their downtown and we get to go out to our community hear what they want and deliver a fantastic series of projects uh count councilwoman Stark thank you uh mayor I would concur this is pretty exciting especially with the police uh headquarters moving closer to City Hall this is quite an opportunity as well I know the county is doing some construction of new build buildings in the area so this is really right for this change thank you step thank you so important background as the police headquarters move we can redevelop and meet communities this is the beginning of the process so our community will have a chance to weigh in about what they want to see uh the council has talked about these Parcels for a while and I think housing remains a big priority for us but we're interested in knowing what the community wants to see uh we will have have one hearing and then two votes on this I will open the public hearing we have one member of the public to comment Vladimir I'm in favor with this project the only thing I'm worried about is the state or the county coming in to change the ordinance that we want to change the height and I'm worried that it's too close to um State and County buildings that they may come back and say that we're not able to so that's my only concern thank you thank you I will close the public hearing I will turn to councilman gindo AA for a motion first on 79 mayor I move to approve the mo the item second her the Planning Commission recommendation and adopt the related resolution yes do that work for all right any comments roll call G yes wado yes Haj Washington yes Pastor yes Robinson yes Stark yes wearing yes O'Brien yes GGO yes passes 90 item 80 councilman Glendo AA or vice mayor I'll yield to the vice mayor awesome I move to approve for the Planning Commission recommendation and and adopt the related ordinance second we have a motion and a second roll call Al yes guado yes HUD Washington yes Pastor yes Robinson yes Stark yes wearing yes O'Brien yes GGO yes passes 9 Zer thank you the start of a really exciting project and thank you to our staff who has been putting a lot of time into this as well as partners including PCA item 81 is the southeast corner of 56 Street and Shea Boulevard this one was continued from a previous council meeting to provide more time for public input and discussion so I think we'll Begin by opening the public hearing and I would ask Jason Morris to come forward and tell us what's changed thank you mayor council uh for the record Jason Morris 2525 East Arizona boore circle on behalf of the applicant uh the the largest single change thank you largest single change mayor is that when I presented this case uh a month ago I was single uh I've since gotten married I are you talking about my personal life or no the case itself has actually actually proceeded very well uh I I appreciate councilman wearing giving us an opportunity an additional opportunity to speak and uh really to work with the neighbors who are surrounding this property uh it it not only Galvanize the support we already had that you saw at the last meeting but it gave us an opportunity as recently as yesterday to talk about some of the concerns and how we can address those concerns so in lie of going through an entire presentation because you saw much of it last month and knowing that there are many members of the public who wish to speak uh I I would prefer to allow them to speak and you can hear both what we've been able to work through and how we've been able to work through this and then if I could recap it uh at the end I think that may be more effective thank you thank you congratulations on your wedding and thank you very I think you might win the best opening line of any statement at today's council meeting I did I did set you up for that by asking what had changed but there was app bigger news than I had yes mayor I believe he did lie to us though about enjoying this extra month of this case it's my suspicion but I do I do believe hopefully needed Chang has been made I'm hoping that this is reflected in what you're about to hear all right uh we have uh Lisa Ericson you have up to five minutes if you would like and everyone else registered has up to two minutes TR this is the Trisha this is the clicker just okay um greetings to all of you at the council thank you so much for hearing us today I'm here uh my name is Lisa Ericson I'm a homeowner on 58th Street and um I'm here representing several of the surrounding neighborhoods that are affected by this zoning situation brief I'm going to be talking very fast very brief history our community has always historically been residential entirely in nature this will be the first time that a zoning request for commercial related activities would be would be occurring we have one unique situation in our community that I think Bears a lot on this particular situ ation we are Phoenix city code but we are Paradise Valley ZIP code and in that situation what we found is Builders are extremely interested in our properties and particularly high-end custom built homes so we've seen a tremendous increase in the size of the property developments and the quality and the values of the homes out of that many people in the community are very protective of the community and the desire to keep it resident stantial you can see all of the new homes uh now priced out at5 to8 million in our surrounding areas with the one acre lots we have one other situation we now are seeing a tremendous increase in The Funnel of traffic flowing through from all the surrounding communities to 56th Street in order to uh access Shay with the light there there are no safe ways now to make a left onto Shay from uh the other feeder streets we have concerns that remain about the traffic increases that will happen out of this development we hear that the count that the uh planning committee intends to uh recommend this zoning development we do still have concerns about that but we also have worked very hard with them and they've worked very hard with us to come up with solutions to our concerns we're working with both stipulations and deed restrictions one to limit the the the development of the property itself and then the usages on the property and as you see we have quite a few things that we have collaboratively worked to to do to come up with what we feel are good guard rails around over usage of this property overc commercialization what we need most from the council today and the reason we're here is to ask you to ensure that the deed restrictions are fully executed and perhaps even more important that you do commit as we have talked over with the planning uh uh Team to not allow cogo usage on the other sha facing properties on that particular section from from 56th Street to 58th Street we understand from conversations with City Planning that they have no intention of allowing that sort of thing but we really would like to hear some Council support for restricting those usages in future I want to thank you for all of the support from both the the uh City Planning Group and from the developer and from his uh uh Team for all of the work this has not been an easy process for any of us uh lot of comp compromises a lot of hand ringing along the way but we all feel that this is a good solution to a difficult situation and we withdraw our objection to the zoning change thank you Jason might have had the best opening line and you might have had the best closing line so we got uh quite a good set of presentations we have 11 individuals here to speak on this item 10K marked and support one marked neutral uh we will begin with Savannah followed by Grant is Savannah all right and in case you want to start coming down after Grant we'll go to Rick Pasqual whatever IE go ahead my name is Savannah and I'm at the property of 5319 East fista Rica and I just wanted to come up here today and express my 100% confidence and support in this project this project is going to be a COO building which will provide amenities to the community such as doctor's offices dentist office anyone and everyone in that Community can find essential um this co building will have regular working hours which means people don't have to worry about loud and noisy on weekends and afternoons um it also being a CO building it'll provide more safety measures such as cameras and lights which I know anyone would benefit from people that have children would I'm pretty sure U appreciate that um it being a CO building in a community would also increase property values of everyone nearby and lastly this co building is going to come off as residential it's going to match the flow of the community it's not going to look commercial so I know that was a big concern to everyone within the community um it'll have vegetation which will make the community look more lively um and it will it will overall bring everyone together and this property has been empty for years and that's an eyesore and that's honestly not very attractive so what they're willing to do is put a an attractive and aesthetically pleasing property right here in this space again I I am 100% in support of this project and I and I'm very confident with what they're doing here so thank you very much thank you grant is next followed by Rick good afternoon thank you very much uh for taking the time to hear this and I'll keep it uh short and sweet uh and thank you Lisa for all the work that you did from an opposition standpoint to make sure that this Advanced um and and had some uh guard rails around this project I'm coming in 100% support of of this item I am a resident on actually on 56 between Shay and Cactus um I've been a resident there for about 10 years now and be able to see the development a former me member of the lamaria Racket Club which we've seen developed into Mountainside Fitness in an emergency room uh With Honor Health being a father of four kids the opportunity to have pediatric offices Dental facilities and as a small business owner the opportunity to have additional office space very close to home is something that uh excites me as I've dug into this project uh more more and seen some of the renderings of what the plans are for it uh I couldn't be uh more enthusiastic about what the architecture the vibrancy that I think we will provide to our community uh as it progresses and that's all I have to say thank you thank you Rick is next followed by Mandy hello my name is Rick pasali I live on 57th Street at 10210 I was the appellant in this case and as you heard Mr Man the developer has agreed to stipulations and most recently further limits on development so I no longer have any objections to this request however I I do want to U share what we've learned subsequent to this continuance that U Council Ming arranged we we saw that under co go zoning a developer can tell a neighborhood that a complex will be one purpose like Medical Dental but if circumstances change potentially pursue far more disruptive commercial uses like Banks night night schools Veterinary and government services Etc so we were lucky in this case that Mr urman was ultimately receptive to the restrictions I say lucky though because we discovered that state law prohibits the city from executing stipulations against permissible uses additionally we learned from Mr Bernar that the reason Planning Development supports the jump to cogo in this residential area is because the single block of 56 South of sheay is a minor collector and has a traffic signal I would suggest that that little two-lane Street and it traffic signal don't indicate that residential office might be a more fitting zoning because rro achieves the city's stated goal of reasonable levels of increased intensity while protecting the neighborhood from disruptive commercial uses so while I am not opposing today's request I urge that for future resoning Planning and Development VPC and the Planning Commission heighten their focus on that land use objective and balance development with the residential neighborhood protections and most importantly to recognize that this is achieved on Ro zoning but cannot be assured under cogo because of the law preventing stipulations thank you thank you Mandy is next followed by Melinda thank you thank you to all and thank you so much for your enthusiasm for Progressive New Growth um I'm I'm sharing my support I'm 100% in favor of this project um this project has been needed for a long time 56 and Shay is sort of a unsightly area and it's really not pleasant to drive past uh so this this is going to diminish the charm of the not this is not going to diminish the charm of the commun community at all it's only going to enhance it it's going to hopefully help us have Services we can get to without driving all over town and wasting valuable fossil fuels and gases and certainly is going to be a beautiful facility for us to look at as we drive past and for visitors that come to the area to see that we actually have some architectural interest in our area um I I don't have any problems with a CO facility taking its its um place there I believe it will be much more of an amenity to our community than anything else and it is time for something like this to happen in that area thank you very much for your time thank you Melinda is next followed by Steve glass is on hi first of all I want to say that I'm in favor for the Improvement on Sha Road can you hear me um I've been in the valley since 1983 and I use shade daily and there has not been any Improvement since I'm fre quently disappointed by the homes and the depressing structures that line the street and also the landscaping and some of the trees that come out in the middle are never cut it's an eyes sore and something you don't want to see in a high-end neighborhood the current developments don't match the neighborhoods on either side I'm in favor for this project and to hopefully see more developments on Sha road to bring more Beauty to Shay and to our area I'm also in favor of more retail or any type of development that can help us with doctors and as the lady before said the dentist and maybe even any kind of restaurants for Neighborhood use thank you thank you Steve is next followed by Michael mayor and city council thank you for the opportunity to speak my name is Steve bandler I'm speaking on behalf of congregation Beth Israel located across the street from the subject property at 10460 North 56 Street give you a little bit of History I was very involved in our the congregation's task force that to sell that property to Mr Man 56 and sha LLC we always found throughout those process uh Mr Man to be extremely concerned about our concerns compatible uses safety of our children we have between 250 and 300 children on our campus on a daily basis between our preschool and the children that attend um a charter school Scottdale Country Day School which is a tenant in our building we when we spoke with Mr Man initially he told us that this was likely to be a medical office building so that though that decision had not been made as a final one at the time we expressed our concerns about um the type of use to make sure it was compatible with children and synagogue usage we were assured that it was but even so we asked for certain restrictions to be placed in our sale contract which he was more than happy to abide by I Now understand that our contract uh Mr man has also agreed to put these into deed restrictions so that those prohibited uses go beyond his use of the property should um it be sold down the road considering the context of the site located right on on Shay our real estate brokers informed us that residential use was not likely so we settled on the commercial use we have we talked about safety the children we have two full-time security guards on campus um the schools do not use it after business hours and when the children cross the street they are accompanied by those security officers so safety is covered thank you very much for your time thank you so much Michael is next followed by Jennifer hi Council thank you for your time um I've been in the neighborhood for more than 20 years and and like most we've seen a lot of development we've seen lots of Redevelopment uh lots of new businesses coming into the area um but we still have a large portion of the area that still is uh you know not brought up to current standards or that doesn't really support that the new socioeconomic you know plan of development that's you know surrounding the area right now and I think that like most I also was kind of opposed to the this program or this uh development but after meeting with the developers on multiple different different occasions they've really addressed a lot of concerns a lot of concerns with the traffic that that's you know a major concern for a lot of residents and they've just really done a great job of working with us and explaining a lot of different benefits and taking our thoughts and our concerns into uh into their hearts and and when they're developing this project I think that they've done a great job of of really addressing everything um I now I see this as a as a big benefit I see that there's going to be a potential where a lot of people could um not only ride bikes but they could also walk uh to some of the this particular project and maybe this project leads way to additional projects in the future um there is like I said a lot of Redevelopment going on I think this supports what's happening in the community and I stand firm and advocating for the project thank you thank you Jennifer is next fder Rebecca hello good afternoon my name is Jennifer um I am in support of this what I consider an architecturally pleasing um and beautiful building uh tasteless and Timeless design being brought into the community and into the neighboring areas um I'm a native to Arizona myself my family is as well we use Shea Boulevard as a daily vein um for our daily commutes several times a day I'm up and down sheay particularly um my daughter is a student at Cherokee Elementary back inside deeper inside of that neighborhood uh we use 56 Street as well um for the safety as others mentioned of leftand turns um and using that light there and the reduced I believe this will reduce the traffic immensely um I use that like I said that light uh for the left hand turns and just that vein um bringing some character and some aesthetic appeal to that street continued um is something I think is very important uh like everyone else has mentioned it's it's there's run down portions of Shea Boulevard and watching it grow and become something more aesthetically pleasing is uh exciting um it could be something much different and I think that this is uh um an upscale uh um gain to that area the landscape uh like others mentioned the safety precautions for the temple across the street um and that's it so I'm full and support thank you thank you Rebecca is next followed by Ariel hello my name is Rebecca I'm here to share my support for the project on 56 anday um I'm born and raised in the neighborhood so that's 31 years and I live in the neighborhood as well and that's why I chose raise my kids um to me sheay Boulevard is no longer primarily a residential street um because there's so much traffic there's churches synagogues Rell spaces along the road so to me putting this beautiful building there would um serve as something nice to look at when we're driving down the street um a lot of the homes uh that are kind of along the street right now are um have pretty unruly landscape and seem very unkempt so putting this here would um actually be very pretty um the lot in question has remained vacant since my childhood um probably I feel like I was around 8 years and now I'm 31 so that many years so um yeah I think that it would be great um I also feel like having on sh you know across the street in the area there is that mountain side and there's that honor Health which is amazing um especially for people who have children who are raising children in the neighborhood so to have that access there so um yes I'm in favor thank you thank you Ariel is next followed by Trent good afternoon I'm Ariel um 56th Street has been a long overlooked space that has the potential to to transform into a beautiful Center benefit both residents and businesses alike for years as everyone has mentioned this lot has remained vacant and an ey sore serving as a missed opportunity rather than a potential Community Asset however the vision for this complex offers a chance to revitalize the area in a modern and updated Way Beyond its functional benefits this project presents an opportunity to strengthen our community's infrastructure if not more beautiful than the other plazas and businesses as well as buildings that line Shay it will encourage job creation and stimulate this area I strongly support this project and by embracing this in development we are investing in the future of this space and surrounding area making it a more vibrant and well served place thank you thank you Trent is next followed by Todd for virtual good afternoon mayor council members I'm born and raised in this neighborhood and I'm here to voice my support for the development this development will increase property values in the area bring necessary services to our community and serve as the best use for this land the structures renderings show that it will be visually beautiful this highquality sophisticated modern design fits perfectly and will even enhance the neighborhood's character and aesthetic the development will also create highquality jobs and attract sophisticated Enterprise raising the bar of economic prosperity for everyone around it creating a meaningful economic infusion for our local community furthermore the design specifically plans for traffic flow and management ensuring that the development peacefully coexists with the surrounding residences dentists doctor's offices and other Health Care Professionals are necessary services for our communities and these are the kinds of professionals and businesses that any Community would want to attract and they will contribute to our community's foundation for long-term growth and prosperity attracting these professionals to live in our community through this development providing their vital services for our citizens will enhance the overall vibrancy of our local community finally this office development is the best use for this land Shay is one of the busiest streets in our community and that's not changing any time soon with constant traffic flow and these conditions are beneficial for a commercial development but detrimental for a personal private residence with the property located on Shay a private residence will always suffer deflated value from the traffic but this office development with its highquality design that accounts for traffic management will turn this detriment for a personal residence into a strength for our community bringing economic prosperity and attracting vital professionals and services for our citizens members I'm born and raised in this neighborhood and I strongly support this development thank you for your time thank you Todd and TOD hear me okay we can great thank you um hi my name is Todd Weiss thank you for your time um I'll keep this brief because I don't have much more to add than what everyone else has uh added but um I am uh speaking in favor of the project um kind of feel like if anyone had um an objection to this it's probably myself and my family we actually live two or yeah I guess two houses south of the project with the only thing in between us is the uh newly developed playground for CBI um but I also recognize that in today's world um you know no one's going to build a house on that lot and I've known Ronnie for a long time uh Ronnie approached me a while ago about this um I think he's done a great job from an aesthetic standpoint he's done a good job of maintaining some residential attributes when it comes to this building um and maybe even most importantly I really appreciate um the fact that since it was not a um a project that everyone was in support of um from the GetGo that he's really worked with all the stakeholders to you know address their concerns as best as possible so given all that um I am in support of the project thank you thank you so much that concludes our speakers except for uh the representative of the applicant thank you mayor there there's not much to counter uh I appreciate it I'd be happy to answer any questions I I will say because I promise to put this on the record uh there are a list of stipulations that are a part of our presentation in the record those stipulations plus the deed restrictions that were referenced uh have been agreed to but more importantly committed to by this developer as part of the overall program to ensure that the uses that are planned for this project are in keeping with what the neighborhoods expectations are so I wanted to make sure that is on the record thank you thank you so much councilman wearing uh yeah just for Jason so um there were a few people who wrote in comments from Country Estates uh I think you met with their I don't know if it's the HOA president he is a former assistant chief in the city of Phoenix Andy Anderson um Lisa I guess was also at that meeting and then there was a third person quite I can't remember who she was representing maybe herself can you for any country of States people who might be uh listening or WR wrote in but did not speak at this meeting um can you speak about what their HOA president said at the meeting yesterday certainly uh mayor councilman wearing the meeting yesterday did include Andy Anderson uh at that meeting the stipulations that are part of today's case package as well as the deed restrictions uh that Lisa mentioned were agreed to and he was a large part of that agreement and was supportive of what we're doing okay so I can only conclude mayor Jason if he was again it uh we would have heard about it and I have not heard him mentioned today so I think that's a very safe ass okay so it's possible maybe the message didn't get disseminated to the the few people who wrote in identifying themselves as living in Country Estates is that what I can I would assume that's what occurred thank you I appreciate that um I did make a joke earlier I knew after the last meeting you couldn't have been too happy my wedding present to you was you got to deal with this for another month um uh because I knew you're getting married and going off on your honey moon but I do think it was time well spent uh for those who came I appreciate very much your willingness uh to work with the applicant um and that's not free for the applicant either Jason you're not working pro bono on this are you okay so yeah extra time it costs money you know keeping that property empty for another month cost money so I recognize you know you probably weren't thrilled with how it worked out last time but I do appreciate that it does seem like it's led to a turnaround in neighborhood support I did want to ask Josh bner from our staff could you just talk things have changed from the city perspective as well not just the deed restrictions from last time so could you just run through that really quickly mayor councilman wearing there are additions in the memo that address uh design for the garages notification for future development and and several standards related to signs and th those are in in excess of the existing stipulations regarding height lands caping design that that even far exceed what was done previously in the RO case down the street thank you and Josh what we call stipulations are not helpful hints or suggestions they are actually laws that the applicant will have to follow correct mayor councilman wearing that is correct they're an extension of the zoning ordinance yes so you know they're not optional they have to do them uh for again people I recognize the people who came and people listening at home they don't do this for a living so they don't necessarily recognize all those terms uh Josh you referenced the case from two years ago that is somewhat close by we did try to use that case as a template for future uh development that might happen in the area this case uh is one of those uh potentialities that we had in mind at the time does this case fit with what we committed to Citizens uh a couple years ago mayor councilman wearing yes it does thank you I appreciate your time mayor and your Indulgence from last time I had planned to continue it but given uh that some people had uh confusions and and wanted to make some suggestions I think those suggestions have been made so I'm willing to make a motion if you're ready to have one close the public hearing and turn to councilman wearing for motion uh thank you mayor uh motion to approve for the March 3rd 2025 memo uh from the planning director and adopt the related ordinance second second we have a motion and a second earlier I complimented councilman Glend AA for his hard work on a and diligence on a case I should have also councilman HJ Washington and and Council wearing this is a very different feel from the last time this was here so it seems like time uh well worth it thank you to all the neighbors who made this a second job thanks for I don't know doing it over your honeymoon um and so congratulations to all involved roll call or does anyone else have a com a comment roll call M Yes W yes H Washington yes pastor Robinson yes Stark marriage is working for you yes wearing uh mayor just before I vote I should say uh this this this property is exactly on the border of uh District Two and District three so uh Deb Stark also heard from constituents and I appreciate very much her willingness to personally call them I know she talked to some as recently as yesterday so I appreciate that very much and I vote I O'Brien yes goo yes passes 8 Z wonderful congratulations to all involved we next go to item 82 which is related to the northeast corner of 20th Avenue and Van Beren Street on this one we will go and open the public hearing uh we will I believe 10 minutes from each side uh in presentations uh we'll begin with the applicant who can reserve uh a little bit of time at the end um each party may choose how to use their 10 minutes if you speak for the whole 10 minutes that's fine if you want to pass to others that is okay okay anyone who speaks during the 10 minutes uh will not have a chance to speak during the 2 minutes um allocated to members of the public so uh begin with I believe Peter is here on behalf of the applicant mayor council my name is Gary pler I'm the current executive director of the neighborhood Christian clinic and have been in that position for 17 years our address is 1929 West Filmore uh 85009 Peter furo of quals has taken on this project for us pro bono uh and did so last March and has uh represented us well the clinic opened for patient care in 1999 we moved to our current location 22 years ago uh the clinic is directed by a board of Physicians and community members with a mission to provide Health Care to the uninsured underserved Working Poor if someone has health insurance our policy and Mission precludes us from seeing them the clinic delivers highquality primary and Specialty Care to those who otherwise might not have access to health care at all we do not Bill insurance companies and we receive no government funding some funding comes from local foundations however the preponderance of our funding and revenue stems from private individuals who wish to care for the underserved by helping to provide health care for them funding has even come from uh in the past from City of Phoenix employees through a program called community service fund drive and our latest donation from that source is occurred yesterday We Exist because of and are able to provide care through many collaborative relationships that have been developed over time including the Arizona Community Foundation St Joe's Hospital Sonora Quest vitals Health Simon Med Thunderbird Charities the Phoenix rotary and dozens and dozens and dozens more not the least of which includes neighborhood Ministries who represents a great deal of this community and neighborhood we are on track to facilitate well over 10,000 patient visits this year approximately half of these these visits are handled by volunteer providers which speaks volumes of a community effort to care for this neighborhood in need an acute need has risen over the last few years for Community Health or excuse me for Behavioral Health uh counseling which we are really trying to address with this project we have exhausted all other building options on neighborhood Ministries campus our application for rezoning is the only means of offering this very critical service to the community we pray that the council approves our proposal so that these critical Services can be provided to a community that lives in great need thank you for your time and consideration Peter will answer any or address any other issues that arise thanks um mayor council uh my name is Peter furo uh to North Central AV 85004 the law firm of corals and Brady on behalf of neighborhood Christian Clinic you able to see my presentation perfect so Gary went over uh the details on the clinic he's happy to answer any questions specific to the services they've been offering on the site for for now over 20 years in in this community um I'm going to discuss our request as well as how we've responded to uh some neighbor comments as well as responded uh following Planning Commission and Village planning committee um so so again our request is to go from R3 to R5 for professional Counseling Services it's an extension of the existing Clinic to the east of the site uh there's a single family home on the property that is not being altered as part of this request um the current rth3 entitlements allow us to do everything that's in that left green column uh an example is U having 10 individuals uh unrelated individuals at the home overnight for Community residents our request is a much less intensive uh request it's just professional Counseling Services 9 to5 on the property and due to the size of of the clinic can let's pause the clock for a second uh councilwoman Stark uh yeah I this is kind of important to me so you're saying that the house will remain there but you're you're not going to use it for anything other than a single family home uh mayor council uh woman Stark that's correct the single family home on the site will remain as employee housing or volunteer housing okay because if you didn't this house could be used for something like a group home or some other kind of use but because you're going to continue it the way it is it will have a small quiet office and a single family that will be deed restricted correct mayor uh Council corre follow that chart thank you yep okay um so the main uh aspects I want to discuss are we've had two neighborhood meetings um three meetings with uh neighbors including one private uh three separate letters that go out and we've received a lot of comments um and I just wanted to go over uh everything that we have stipulated to as well as the deed restriction that we've placed on the property um so stipulation one we're stipulating to uh R3 height um we are also voluntarily stipulating to R3 density which is two dwelling units on the unit at most um or on the property at most uh as far as architecture and signage we're also voluntarily stipulating uh to match the existing uh single family home on the property in terms of design and materials so that um it matches the character of the neighbor uh hood and then as far as signage uh we are voluntarily stipulating to uh no signage and no advertisements visible from North 20th a um the uh most important uh response or action that we've taken uh since Planning Commission uh that was the result of an extra U meeting we had with uh former councilman uh nowakowski as well as uh the rosalis family uh Hilda and Ry was a deed restriction so that um as you can see here has been recorded so that's um on title it's on our deed you can do a simple property search record search and see that was recorded on February 25th that was following a meeting that we had with with those Neighbors on the 24th and after listening to their concerns about um potential R5 uses that are not the professional counseling services that could exist on the property after we sold uh the the property uh sometime in the future we wanted to make sure that one they they would know that that could not happen and then two we wanted to make sure that they had uh you know the power in this situation so to speak so we made it to the benefit of the Rosales family uh UC APN 10930 108 um and what this means is even if this case is approved uh for R5 the only uses that are permitted on the property are those that are already existing in R3 as well as uh office for professional use specifically professional Counseling Services the office for admin and clerical is just in case there's any data retention or files on the site we want to make sure that it was covered in the use um I wanted to leave some time for rebuttal but just wanted to point out one other extra important thing so on North 20th um AV uh you see our our property uh we wanted to make sure that nothing would be going through the existing single family home on the property so parking as well as access will be going through uh how it how it is occurring right now on the site so it's through the existing clinic so you see the the three access areas the circled areas where parking will be patients will be going through uh the existing clinic on site going through LED through the back and entering the back where the uh proposed Clinic is uh this is just to show you that uh two stories uh uh buildings uh whether it be commercial or industrial surround uh the sites uh here are photo examples and just wanted to show you very quickly on the site plan existing home proposed Clinic the proposed access to the clinic going through the back connecting to the existing clinic so once again nothing will be on 20th um and with that I would like to reserve the rest of my time for rebuttal thank you thank you so much and will Michael noow presenting on behalf of the neighborhood wonderful welcome back councilman former councilman Noah Kowski good evening mayor council members my name is Michael no Kowski I have a home right there on 30 at 328 North 20th Avenue and basically it's just three houses down across the street from this property right here the reason that I'm here today is to basically ask you to deny deny this um R3 to R5 the proposed um Professional Services are the counseling services that they want to put in there is in the center of a residential neighborhood with increasing the dwelling from three to 9 that means you can have three um units in that facility which there's no house or no home in that neighborhood with more than three Dwelling Places right to decide to basically your decision or to postpone I'm put this um res zoning on there would ruin the integrity and the historical neighbor neighorhood dated back in the 1990s 1920s the character that we have the children that play on the streets it took us a long time to revitalize that whole neighborhood for one time we had prostitution going on in Van buan Sheriff Joe AR pile thought it was a great idea to drive a tank down van burn and drive off the prostitutes but they drove him into our neighborhoods then we as a neighborhood worked along with the city of Phoenix Police Department to drive them out of our neighborhood and then with the whole closing of the homeless shelter we ended up having a lot of individuals in our neighborhood working together with the city of Phoenix we're able to look for housing and places for those individuals to stay so saying that we're just afraid that the proposed Clinic situated in the middle of two homes in the middle of our block would just create a potential rezoning of the whole neighborhood and commercializing our whole neighborhood you know we got three notices the first notice is right around Thanksgiving time and my wife Delia and I we read and we said wow this is a great opportunity for the community because it's stated northeast corner of 20th Avenue in vanan so on the northeast corner of of vanan right there on vanan in 20th Avenue is an empty field it used to be a grocery St little Neighborhood Grocery Store that was demolished but there's an empty lot there and across the street from there is a motel that's been for sale for the last 6 months so we thought because of the description of the notice that was the northeast corner of 20th Avenue and vanen that that was going to be the site two weeks later after receiving the first notice we noticed a big old billboard 4x8 sign right in the middle of our neighbor's yard then we realized that the zoning wasn't on 20th Avenue in Van Buren but it was actually in the middle of our neighborhood and we said wow this can't be done so what we did is we encouraged a handful of neighbors to go to our planning and um our Central City Village to voice their opinion after the Commissioners heard that it was a 10 to1 vote against I'm rezoning um that um the R3 to r10 R R3 to r five and one of the things that was brought up to the Commissioners is why didn't you put the address down and make it very clear for the residents that live on that block to know that it's right in the middle of their neighborhood the other thing that was noticed was that 80% of the residents that live in the and what they called the St Matthew's neighborhood happen to be Hispanic which 50% of them speak Spanish and this was only sent out in English the first two notices then we went to the Planning and Zoning Commissioners and they voted it I think it was 9 to Zer 10 oh I think it was 9 to Zer he's saying it's 10 to Z so it's anonymously against it and once again what they recommended is that the applicant and their attorney pull the application and meet with the community find a win-win situation and instead of doing that they decided just to have a community meeting because there was a petition going around with the um n neighbors the property owners within 150 ft from this site and everyone signed it everyone didn't know about this happening until they seen that 4x8 billboard and they were upset about it they love what's going on with neighborhood Ministry but at the first meeting the village planning meeting it we found found out that they have nothing to do except for leasing the property with neighborhood um Ministry that they are a separate entity and then other people were saying well why don't you go ahead on the S and a half acres of land where you're renting your clinic on which is A1 why don't you build an addition to that they said no we own this property and we'd like to have the clinic there in the middle of our neighborhood so I believe that if you look at the petition that we've given you earlier you'll see the the the neighbors have signed it if you look at that aerial spot that he showed you that we have three sides of our neighborhood our residential neighborhood which is R3 surrounded by A1 that's from the I17 from the I 10 to Van um from 19th Avenue all the way up to where these properties are and vanan is C3 so this is the only neighborhood once you see that map again it's the only neighborhood that's intact and if you allow this to happen this is opens the floodgates for other projects other non-residential projects that come into our district so we really want an opportunity to sit down and have a conversation putting Deeds restrictions and all that well that's a conversation not just with the nextdoor neighbor on one side but the other nextdoor neighbor on the other side that person was offered a half a million for his property and he was saying I'm not going to sell it for not even a million if they give me a million he threw out the number of million this is what Mr Martin was telling me so my thing is that we need to have a conversation and figure this out because what they do for the community is great what they do for the whole city of Phoenix is wonderful but having a clinic in the middle of a city block a residential Block it's not right so I give up the time to anyone else who needs to speak thank you so much thank you so much uh we'll go next to Oscar followed by Vladimir good afternoon mayor council um my name is Oscar Kota I live in the neighborhood I have three homes in that neighborhood which are about 300 feet from the rezoning issue that we're talking about today my daughter lives in one and my son lives in the other and between our three houses we have I have six grandchildren at attend school at Capitol school and they play in that neighborhood um my concern is we don't have enough parking in our neighborhood we have we constantly have semi trcks that are not supposed to be going through our neighborhood going through the neighborhood now we want to add a business in the middle of our neighborhood and have more traffic in there that's it's it's going to be an issue again parking is also an issue we we we don't have any place of park or cars all right um that's a problem too and then you're going to think about this commercial building in the middle of our neighborhood the lighting that's going to be put there for security purposes yeah two stories but how about the neighbors next door on both sides of their one story and lights to secure that building it's going to be interfering with with the neighborhood um I was one that went out and collected signatures yesterday and I collected approximately 20 signatures and I sent those signatures this morning to all your offices uh I hope you received them and you'll you know most of those people that I spoke to yesterday did not speak English and luckily between my broken up Spanish I was able to communicate with them um they they were all opposed to it and most of them didn't know what was going on I'm involved I was involved with the ministry at at at neighborhood Ministries for a long time I I still help them out and I was I was surprised to find out that the clinic is not part of the Ministries also although they are their their building is on the property um I know there's seven acres of ministry property and with that I guess I'm done thank you thank you so much Vladimir is next followed by Hilda I'm so sorry um uh I feel really hurt today CU I made sure that I blocked my schedule to be in this meeting so I have my representative here representing my voice and the voices of the members in my community that she represents she's no longer on the calm and I felt really hurt today because I looked forward to talking to her about things that I felt like that would improve our community at the end of the meeting and she's no longer here and I feel like my voice doesn't matter in this rest of the day for the meeting so I will be going home and I feel devastated that my representative is not here virtually or in person anymore and I feel devastated because I was looking forward to being able to talk to her about concerns that I've talked to may may he's not on subject and that's why I'm no longer going to be talking and I want to leave today thank you thank you thank you Council woman you are correct Hilda virtual public comment thank you mayor and council members my name is Hilda Rosales and my address is 8740 West Sierra Vista Drive glendell Arizona and I and my husband own the home next door to the uh the home where uh they are asking to have professional Counseling Services I am to the just Northeast of that at 339 North 20th Avenue for the sake of um not repeating ourselves but just making some some key points uh again to make sure that our voices are heard uh we all of us who have spoke um in and against this know that the uh services that are currently being provided which is the medical and dental services by um the clinic are definitely uh good services for our neighborhood and we commend them for providing them and we've known that they've provided those Services uh for uh many years Our concern is that it is now wanting to be expanded into the counseling services or Behavioral Health Services and again if this was being offered on the corner of 20th Avenue in vanan where it is commercial that I believe is much more conducive than in the middle of a residential area uh where we would not have traffic and individuals in the same street going into the the clinic on 20th Avenue uh there is just too many unknowns going from an I3 R3 to an R5 um and there's a lot of potential for in my mind um the unknowns even though that uh it was spoken of earlier that there are some deed restrictions those there's no guarantee that uh things could not change in the future many of us plan to continue to have our our properties there and we're looking at not only from a community perspective in terms of safety security but also from a market value perspective think about um you know individuals who may need to sell their homes uh and they turn around and next door there uh there's a uh professional Counseling Center where individuals are driving in from 20th Avenue to receive their their services that could have an impact there could be some you know uh unknowns for those individuals and would they want to have that next door to their home and so um I believe that there's just too many uh unknowns in this situation and um I know that uh uh we uh have soon thank you our light thank you so much we'll ask the applicant I think to return for to address Community concerns I think this might have got adjusted can everyone still hear me perfect yes we can um so first off thank you uh for the comments the the the folks that have spoken here uh this afternoon um former councilman Noah Kowski uh Hilda Rosales um and Mr uh okado have uh been at the previous VPC and Planning Commission hearings um and and since that Planning Commission hearing we have um met with them twice uh separately once through a neighborhood meeting and once in a sit down meeting giving them a tour of the clinic and and walk through um every change that we've made in response to every comment that they've given um in response to uh for former councilman Noah Kowski with the neighborhood meeting um uh the the notice letter the way that the address is described is the way that it is legally required to be described in City of Phoenix so um obviously if there's any confusion that's why when we had the second neighborhood meeting and the second neighborhood notice go out we made uh two major fixes so uh one we provided both an English and a Spanish uh uh version of the the notice and and two in addition to the the legal address we provided um a bunch more um exhibits that circled exactly where the the meeting would be taken place so that there could be uh no room for for confusion as far as uh the unknown which was uh mentioned by Miss Rosales uh the purpose of the the deed restriction and all of the stipulations that we have voluntarily uh placed upon oursel are the um are the exact reason that we we did that is to remove that unknown so uh uses that are already permitted as well as just this additional professional Counseling Services which again is not an intensive use of the site people will be um parking just as they normally park to reach the clinic entering through the existing Clinic um will not add any uh extra stress onto North 20th Avenue it's all going to be contained on the uh existing uh neighborhood Ministry site as far as uh the comments uh received about uh why can't you just locate this somewhere else or buy this property um I just wanted to make it very clear that the client is a 501c3 it is a nonprofit all of their funds that they do receive go back into um funding uh expensive medicine as well as uh you know the day-to-day operations of providing these health care services for the uninsured so they don't have just a spare you know million dollars to go buy a new piece of property um thank you could you address Mr kota's comment about the lighting sure uh so the business or the um additional uh the proposed clinic will only be open from 9 to 5 if there's stipulations you can place on on your end to make it so we have to have certain lighting that's non offensive or not going off past a certain hour we're we're happy to stipulate to those uh we don't want to have lighting disrupting either Neighbors on either side so any reason would you just be the existing lighting could work correct okay uh question from Council Members or shall I close the public hearing councilwoman HUD Washington I think had a question or a comment I think I think councilwoman H Washington thank you I just had one question for you um what is the plan or what is the what can the what can the community expect when it comes to addressing any concerns that may arise if this moves forward uh councilwoman hjj Washington I think I understand your question which uh if anything were to happen in the future what can they expect from us yeah how do they how could how would they how could they expect for their concerns to be address if there are complaints moving forward given the questions about the uncertainty at this juncture right uh thank you for the question so I guess my first comment is Paul lawrenson who's unfortunately not here he's the executive medical director as well as Paul executive director they've been at this site for 20 plus years a lot of the neighbors know them um they are more than welcome to to uh take any comments which I think is evident from our presentation every comment besides by another piece of property has been responded to thoughtfully as well as uh we've given uh again the power the deed restriction is to the benefit of the neighbors they are the decision makers as far as uh future uses of the property so um I know I don't want to speak on behalf of Gary but I've had the uh great opportunity to be working on this with him for the last year I can assure you he's a very good man and would be very willing to work with the neighbors and you've mentioned the deed restrictions in your in your in your comments I think it might be helpful to explain for those that are not legal trained what the deed restrictions truly mean and their effectiveness and how long they uh they exist for uh mayor Gago councilwoman Hajj Washington yeah uh I would love to so um the deed restriction was recorded February 25th uh what this means is on the actual deed itself for the property when you look up the property you see this restriction that's spelled out um I had it up on my presentation but if not I can still walk you through it essentially what this deed restriction says is condition upon approval so if this uh resoning were to be approved to R5 the following um are the only uses that are permitted and it lists the existing R3 as well as professional Counseling Services which is what we're here today to speak about what that means is no other R5 use uh that is listed in the Phoenix zoning ordinance would be permitted on the site it's a it's a it's legally binding it shows up on title within the deed restriction you can make it end with the current owners or it can run with the land we recorded this deed restriction so that it runs with the land so that it binds future owners we did that because the biggest concern wasn't with our client neighborhood Christian Clinic it was with If This Were to be sold to a future owner who they do not know who hasn't been in the community for 20 years and the only way this restriction can be removed or amended is with written consent of both the Rosales family as well as neighborhood Christian clinic so they would have to work together thank you for that I just always sometimes I know as lawyers we speak in a language and not everyone else always understands and I just wanted to make sure you gave explanation so thank you for that thank you mayor of course thank you anyone before I close the public hearing all right Peter I have a questions for you um I'd like to talk about the entry for services you said that it would entry from the clinic is that going to continue and be the policy for use of of this building uh mayor Gayo uh councilman ginda ala um your question is will uh the entrance to Clinic be on to North 20th or through the back it will be through the back through the existing Clinic um as it is today right now so you would go through the existing Clinic uh go all the way to the back there will be a door you let in and then it's access through the back of the the property at at discussion today um how about loitering um I was out at the property and um I did notice that it does meet the character of the neighborhood It is Well groomed well kept up um is that going to be ongoing and what can we expect about any of the patients in the front part of the property yeah councilman glind Alvar um it's a a good question thank you for asking so the property the single family home will remain as such that has nothing to do with the proposed Clinic the front of the home will not be utilized it's not for patients it will be contained to the back so that there's internal circulation so it goes from existing Clinic small pathway into the proposed Clinic nothing will be happening on the front and nothing on North 20th half and um I'd like for you to go over again restate the parking situation I know that was a concern for the neighborhood in terms of congesting the area how will that happen can you walk us through that again yeah of course so we are for spaces uh deficient is uh I think the the phrasing uh and so in order to meet parking we are doing a cross access agreement with um neighborhood Ministries for the four spaces so the par our parking is satisfied on their property so today when you go to the clinic you're parking in neighborhood Ministries as that is where the existing Clinic is that will continue If This Were to be approved our parking is on the neighborhood Ministries parcel and on your slide presentation on page three the requested entitlements you said at most three patients receiving talk therapy at any time yep is that through the 9 to 5 hours what I was uh or councilman ginda um so that was a comment on um the size of the building is is quite small the the proposed Clinic it's 600 foot a floor so at most we would be able to fit three therapy rooms U more than likely one on each story and so what I was trying to say is that any given time at most there would be two people or two patients receiving um this professional counseling services at any time not throughout the day only too it would be at most at any one time and my last question for you Peter is are you paid to represent the applicant uh councilman gindo alira I am not uh this is a pro bono client so I am not paid for this and then I have a question for Josh Josh the 8x4 uh billboard is that considered public notice mayor council M gind that the the signage referenced in the uh comments is the required signage the 4 by8 sign that's required as part of re zoning uh process okay and is it still your Department's recommendation to approve mayor council member our our recommendation is still for approval yes thank you we will close the public hearing I will turn to councilman glendel AA for a motion mayor um I have visited the site and I have gone through the walkth through to understand the accessibility for um the use of this uh of this building I'm sufficiently satisfied with the that the applicant comes in good faith um most especially with the deed restriction and I agree with the staff recommendation I move to approve for the February 28 2025 Memo from the PDD director and adopt the related ordinance second we have a motion in a second any comments roll call gind yes wado yes P Washington yes Robinson yes Stark yes waren yes O'Brien no GGO yes passes 71 thanks to everyone who worked on this one we will next go to item 83 also in district 7 uh legal funding for 69th and Thomas Redevelopment area I will open the public hearing uh Vladimir had signed up to speak on this one but he let us know he was departing we do have Nick Wood on behalf of the applicant available to speak if necessary would you like to comment thank you I'll close the public hearing and turn to councilman ginda aier thank you mayor I moved to approve the staff recommendation and adopt the related resolution second mayor if I may I just wanted to note that a two-thirds vote is is required for for this for this it thank you roll call yes gind thank you yes HJ Washington yes yes Pastor she's not here Robinson yes Stark yes waren yes O'Brien yes GGO yes passes 8 z uh we will next go to the final portion of the meeting which is our open public comment and I'll turn to our City attorney to introduce citizen public comment thank you mayor during citizen comment members of the public public May address the city council for up to 3 minutes on issues of Interest or concern to them the citizen comment session is limited to 30 minutes the Arizona opena meeting law permits the city council to listen to the comments but prohibits council members from discussing or acting on the matters presented thank you thank you so much we'll begin with John Bowden followed by John fory John Bowen is is here okay I do not see John Bowen so we will go to John foresight continuing with the theme followed by John Paul good afternoon I am John fory one of the unique unicorns here in town I was born 52 years ago at St Joe's and I haven't really matriculated very far from here in therapy we learn that there's three steps to solving a problem the first step is admitting we have a problem the next step is to be honest with ourselves and the third step is to talk about it I'm wearing a shirt today that says privilege privilege is when you believe something isn't important because it doesn't affect you personally well I hope problem with hoping is hoping is not a plan I hope that people don't have to fight for their civil rights but Phoenix still is going through a civil rights struggle I have uh a lot of experience in the city of Phoenix graduated broy 1991 I can tell you from personal experience that Phoenix police have declined in the 30 years 35 years since I have graduated roofy let's talk about a few of the issues if I came over here and put hands on this officer I know this whole chamber would be outraged but I'm concerned about the lack of outrage for the past three years as the federal government has looked into the City of Phoenix and roasted you it's not good but nothing's been done we have Maricopa County attorney that's lost her law license for conspiring to phony up charges against American citizens I mean that just shreds the Constitution we have a lieutenant Moore who recently admitted in court that he has not read the doj report there's no urgency there's no outrage we have an O director Roger Smith the quit because he was being bullied in her harassed by the Phoenix police the very people he was in charge of holding accountable we live in a constitutional republic that means we talk about our issues City of Phoenix is failing to do this there is a gentleman I've never met him or his attorneys Michael Kenyan his case is astonishing he was forced to lay on the ground for 4 minutes minutes burned his entire front of his body he was innocent he was the wrong person the wrong place at the wrong time we don't want to talk about this because there's a court case but we live in a democracy my time is ending and I need to give this more careful consideration I'll be back in three weeks discussing Michael Kenyan because this is important civil rights you have to fight for first if you lose them they're gone forever thank you thank you John Paul is next followed by Sandy thank you uh I want to apologize for my limited English because I us I speak French uh I want I wanted you to know that it's very important to keep the shelters uh open and to keep the heat radi centers open we want you to do the whole amount of $29 million for next year I Al want you to know that I was helped by the by this programs so I was out of the heat in the summer while I was a sleep I'm arve in part because of this programs please keep them open thank you thank you so much Sandy is next followed by Mark mayor gyo and city council this is so wonderful to be able to speak in a public setting like this thank you so much it's it's just great I live in Lichfield Park but I was born in the late 40s in Phoenix my dad who has already passed away was born in Phoenix in 1920 he graduated from alhamra grade school in 1934 in uh M her's District 5 that's why I'm here to speak I am so passionate about this because I found on Facebook not too long ago that they there is a probable demolition of that historic building the gym it is the only thing left standing from that wonderful School the AL hamur Grade School District was started on it was begun on August 6th 1888 the school itself which I went to through sixth grade in 1958 was demolished decades ago but that beautiful historic gym is still standing and when I cross over on that overpass at 35th Avenue in Grand in Indian school I'm always comforted to look North and see that white building still standing and I can't even imagine driving and looking to my left and seeing that gone so I am here to plead and find out if there's any way that that building can still be saved I know that is slated to be demol demolished probably in 2026 or even this year maybe at the end of the year for public housing for a needy families which is wonderful that is a wonderful project however there are five and a half acres of land on that parcel the gym um the fence is still there maybe it's not the same fence but when I was a little kid in first grade it's um like a pie-shaped parcel uh piece of that property where that gym is still standing and it goes like this there's all this land behind it 5 and a half acres they want to put a four-story building it'd be 192 uh units for these people it's great but can that gym not be reconstituted into like a recreational building or or just leave it alone but don't demolish it so I've been in contact with several different people that's why I'm here today to hope and pray that that building can be saved because it is historic for the City of Phoenix thank you so much thank you Mark is next followed by Frank H so the movers and shakers for the City of Phoenix um as far as the homeless Community uh we we know you have 50 plates spinning in the air every day and it's very stressful and uh but and our issues many of you probably think you know put on the back burner little things but uh housing Mental Health Care uh drug abuse you know oh that's someone else's problem or you know that's a little thing but to us you know the little things are our lives so as far as funding for the homeless um we don't want funding we need it thank you thank you Frank is next followed by Elizabeth hello Phoenix City counc so my name is Frank Urban um with fund for empowerment as you already probably already know um I think we need to keep the heat relief programs going 247 if possible because it's coming toward summertime and we all know Phoenix in the summer gets really hot out there um and I myself have seen people wither and pass away that I personally have known um and and I also think that the shelter should stay open and not be located miles away from any resources that these people need like the shelter on uh East Thomas on 75th Avenue great idea that you built it but it's miles away from any resource that the homeless Community needs they can't get anything there's no stores out there there's nothing uh with that I'll close thank you Elizabeth is next followed by Missy um I'm glad you voted for neighborhood Ministries I thought it was great I didn't know if I would help the item or not help the item to be on it um it's it's a different from how the council acted in the past and I think it's an improvement and I appreciate uh you all almost all of you voting for it you know I appreciate the the changes um the other thing is I wanted to say so a uh a little bird tweeted in my ear that we had been saying the wrong number based off of a presentation we saw in the fall so I had been saying $15.3 million but it the L the number for keeping the shelters open and possibly other facilities you know it's hard to see without being itemized right um is about 29 million however um you know I'm just looking I looked at the um you know the amount of beds that that Rachel M says that you know have been completed of permanent beds right and that estimate the last time I saw it was 1406 I did the math on that and that alone if you don't have any other items that would be funded that has a monetary return and cost Savings of over $21 million just on that 1406 it's about $15,000 in cost savings from fire emergency policing you know when you provide housing to people you know let alone you know the the increased economic productivity reduce uh harm to other surrounding communities right um so you know I I it's sort of a broken you know clock but um I uh wanted to um just say that I think it's critically important to keep these Services open I mean it's something new for me but you know um if I don't say it maybe no one else will say it other than you know our friends and and I and I think it's critically important and I and I um so we're going to keep saying it you know the other thing is um you know I think I I know about you know some developments that are coming down the pipeline with that property storage um I hope it can be done effectively more effectively than it was sort of started as in 20 2023 you know with the earnestness and follow through in terms of people getting there things back um uh because some of these items are critically important to people and um you know I I you guys know I'm always working on trying to get people's stuff not being thrown away so you know um I just hope that the city will make effective policies right in this area that assists people thank you thank you our final speaker will be Missy hi Mara Council I have a whole speech that I was going to read but I'm tired and have a headache and I just pretty sure you're over it too um I'm obviously here to talk about cats and the suffering that they're going through in Phoenix basically I just want us to not overlook this situation anymore I come to these meetings and it's hard for me to even pay attention because we're talking about all these things that definitely matter but there's suffering and living beings being killed having sickness and there's just there's zero regard for it apparently because I can't even get anyone to respond to me um I just want you guys to just I came here as a as a business owner in Phoenix as a resident of Phoenix hoping that I could come here and and you guys would help us we could together figure out something I have a lot of knowledge I can help this but with your help maybe I could we could do something real I'm not asking you for any money I'm asking for your time and your um I'm asking for your time and your just to listen and maybe your something that you might have to help so that's basically all I have why I'm so passionate about this is for many reasons obviously but I did Kids Camp when I had the Cat Cafe and kids would come there for the whole summer they'd come for um Christmas break and for spring break and we would they would spend the whole week there with cats and we did all kinds of things and it was so fun and it was so um inspiring for these kids one of the girls her name is Ella she came to 5 years of kids camp she now asked her mom to buy her a trap for Christmas because she wants to go out and trap and neuter cats it breaks my heart to think that in 20 years when she's in her 30s that she's going to spend her life doing this every night like a lot of the cat people are doing now this is what they do 24/7 they don't get to go to the movies they don't get to go on vacation this is what they're doing they're spending their all of their money on this so it just breaks my heart to think about that for a little girl now that is going to be us someday and that's just not what I would want for for my um for my kids or the future or the citizens of this this community thank Youk thank you so much we are adjourned for our students we know every year we sit there at the beginning of the year and say okay how far are we going to go in temperature to let them safely play outside and having a shade structure allows them access to more play for longer periods of time