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Regular Meeting - 10/22/2024 6:30:00 PM
Summary
Summary of Gilbert Town Council Meeting (October 22, 2024)
- The council proclaimed November 2024 as Alzheimer's and Caregiver Month and Veterans Week, encouraging community engagement in related events.
- A presentation was made on the FY 2024 Gilbert Benchmark Report, highlighting improvements in areas such as hotel occupancy rates and commercial property vacancy rates.
- The council voted unanimously to approve several items, including the adoption of an ordinance to raise the general sales tax, use tax, and bed tax rates effective January 1, 2025.
- Discussions included the need for better management and accountability in response to recent incidents of teen violence and community safety concerns.
- Community engagement is a priority, with updates on programs for teens, including a focus on increasing recreational opportunities and addressing mental health challenges.
Overview
The Gilbert Town Council meeting on October 22, 2024, featured significant proclamations, including Alzheimer's Awareness Month and Veterans Week. Presentations highlighted improvements in Gilbert's benchmark statistics, and the council took decisive action by approving tax increases to fund critical projects. Discussions on public safety emphasized the need for accountability in response to rising incidents of youth violence. Engagement with the community was also discussed, particularly in relation to enhancing recreational programs for teens.
Follow-Up Actions and Deadlines
- November 5, 2024: General Election; residents are encouraged to vote and can drop off ballots at Town Hall or the North Area Service Center.
- November 8, 2024: Veterans Day Ceremony at Town Hall, 11:00 AM.
- Next Council Retreat: To include discussions on community engagement and public safety measures.
Transcript
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e e e [Music] welcome to town hall and thank you for attending a Gilbert public meeting here are a few things to know the meeting will be held in the council chambers should additional seating be needed you may watch from our lobby if you would like to speak at today's meeting you'll find both agendas and speaker cards at the front counter in the lobby our staff is here to assist you fill out the cards and find the corresponding agenda items all speaker cards from the public must be submitted prior to the start of the meeting the Town Council is committed to providing an environment where everyone's voice is heard during public meetings in an effort to preserve order and a quorum here are a few rules and guidelines we ask ask everyone to follow during the meeting you may bring signs and similar items into the council chambers that these items may not be held above shoulder height or otherwise obstruct the view or block the path of members of the audience disruptions impact the flow of discussion potentially intimidate others and detract from the purposes of the meeting therefore disruptive behavior including but not limited to cheering shouting booing or the use of profanity is prohibited Applause is only permissible during the presentations and proclamations portion of the agenda threats directed toward any individual or group are prohibited speakers may not campaign or advocate for or against candidates for office or ballot issues or otherwise attempt to influence the outcomes of Elections a full list of meeting rules is displayed at the entrance of the council chambers during the public hearing portion of the agenda and during Communications from citizens when your name is called please come forward to the podium then state your name your town of residence and begin speaking remarks shall be limited to 3 minutes citizens who are at the meeting and wish to donate their time to a single speaker must fill out an individual card and then combine their speaker cards in such an event one person from the group shall be designated to present their remarks which shall be limited to 6 minutes if one speaker is speaking on behalf of others who are present the mayor or vice mayor shall read into the record the names of those whose time is combined no person other than the individual speaking shall enter into the discussion officials on the dis may not respond to any questions or comments during Communications from citizens however the council may ask questions during public ing items all comments and questions shall be directed through the mayor or presiding officer thank you again for attending a Gilbert town meeting and for your participation in local [Music] government good evening everyone I'll go ahead and call to order our GBA Town council meeting for October 22nd 2024 the first thing on our agenda is our invocation inviting Pastor Brad Myers of Central Christian Church to the podium please I think there's a note on the button that you need to push to turn the microphone on Pastor there you go perfect thank you so let us pray father God we ask for guidance wisdom and support for the leaders of this community we also ask for the leaders to be moved to lead justly govern well and make choices that transfer transcend fear and despair Lord may we know the presence of the Holy Spirit here with us today may we be open to your leadership sensitive to your speaking and alert to your calling dear God defend our cause through this governing body tonight we pray for wisdom strength and a courage to do what is right and good for all citizens may we put the interest of others above our own and may we act with love for the common good amen thank you Pastor thank you for joining us this evening appreciate the invocation next we will have a pledge of allegiance led by council member Kowski please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the for stands na andice for now if our town clerk could please conduct the roll call Mayor Bridget Peterson here Scott oh sorry vice mayor Scott Anderson here council member Chuck B Giovani here council member Bobby Buckley here council member young Kowski here council member Kathy tilki here and council member Jim torguson here aquarum is present thank you cheli appreciate that first on our presentations and proclamations agenda this evening is a clamation declaring November 2024 as Alzheimer's and caregiver month council members Bon Giovani and comproski will present to Steve Adams Steve if you're here please come down and join our council members thank you yeah everybody in the purple shirts come on down oh even if you don't have a purple shirt on whereas Alzheimer and related dementia have a significant impact on the health and well-being of our residents with more than 151 ,000 arizonans living with Alzheimer's and whereas more than 292,000 arizonans provide over 483 million hours in unpaid care to their loved ones living with Alzheimer's and related dementia and whereas women are at the epicenter of the Alzheimer's crisis with almost 2third of American seniors living with Alzheimer's disease being women as well as 70% of all unpaid Alzheimer's and Dementia caregivers are women and whereas in Arizona Alzheimer's is the fourth leading chronic dis disease cause of death and so arizonans are actively engaged in disease education Continuum Continuum of Care advocacy and improved training and care of Alzheimer's and Dementia related patients and whereas the town of gilber is committed to actions that address this Public Health crisis and have applied for a dementia friendly America municipality designation which will connect the town with Community stakeholders and provide dementia friendly trainings for Frontline team members local businesses and community members and offer education support and programs for those affected by Alzheimer's and Dementia related diseases and their caregivers and now therefore I young Kowski and council member Chuck Bon giavani um on behalf of Mayor Bridget Peterson of the town of Gilbert Arizona do hereby Proclaim November 2024 as Alzheimer's and caregiver month and encourage all of our residents to learn more about Alzheimer's and related dementia related illnesses okay hold hold this for one second can you hold this for a second yeah don't give me the mic I'll give you the mic all right first of all I would like to thank the town of Gilbert for this recognition it means a lot to me last year there's a difference between last year and this year my wife was here last year and she's not this year I want to share a letter that that was written on November 5th 1994 I think it kind of brings everything together my fellow Americans I have recently been told that I am one of the millions of Americans who will be affected with Alzheimer's disease upon learning this news Nancy and I had to decide whether as private citizens we would keep this as a private matter or whether we would make this news known in a public way in the past Nancy suffered from breast cancer and I had my cancer surgeries we found through our open disclos closures we were able to raise public awareness we were happy that as a result many more people underwent testing they were treated in early stages and able to return to normal healthy lives so now we feel it is important to share it with you in Opening Our Hearts we hope that this might promote greater awareness of this condition perhaps it will encourage a clearer understanding of the individuals in and families who are affected by it at the moment I feel just fine I intend to live the remainder of my years of the years God gives me on this Earth doing the things I've always done I will enjoy to share life's I will I will continue to share life's journey with my beloved Nancy and my family I plan to enjoy the great outdoors and stay in touch with my friends and supporters unfortunately as Alzheimer's disease progresses the family often Bears a heavy burden I only wish there was some way I could spare Nancy from this painful experience when the time comes I'm confident that with your help she will face it with faith and courage in closing let me thank you the American people for giving me the great honor of allowing me to serve as your president when the Lord calls me home whenever that may be I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours and eternal optimism for its future I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life I know that for America there will always be a bright Dawn ahead thank you my friends may God always bless you sincerely Ronald Reagan I want to thank you all and please continue to support this cause thank you [Applause] would one of those ladies like to explain the flowers because I just saw a movie it was a Hallmark movie with the I saw it yeah I watch every Hallmark movie I I admit it um so can you please explain the flowers I actually just sat down um I lost my wife it'll be four years in March after an 8-year uh battle um she was a high school math teacher at Chandler Unified School District and I just said it's a punch in the gut every year that I have to change for going from a yellow which is a caregiver to purple which means I've lost someone so each flower represents a different uh signification the yellow is a caregiver the blue is someone that has Alzheimer's the Orange is an ally and an advocate and uh we're hoping for the white which means the first Survivor of this disease so we're making progress so and the walk is November 2nd so we hope full of Promise flowers yes we will so thank you so yeah so the yellow is the one that um Ashley Williams actually held on stage and she was her mom's primary caregiver when her mom had frontal de temporal dementia with Alzheimer's so she said that movie was her love letter to the Alzheimer's Association and their support of her because this yellow flower is hard let's take a picture thank for being here tonight thanks guys you see you soon thank you next we will have a proclamation for veterans week 2024 if I could invite members of our veterans Advisory Board to join me and Monica dortenzio the staff liaison I warned her I warned her ahead of time this Hi how are you Charles hi Pamela and Monica Monica is the staff liaison to the veterans Advisory Board and council member tilki and I serve as Council Liaisons to the veterans Advisory Board veterans week 2024 whereas annually we honor and celebrate America's military veterans and commemorate the end of World War I hostilities that went into effect on the 11th Hour of the 11th day of the 11th month on Veterans Day November 11th and whereas annually Veterans Day honors America's Veterans for their patriotism love of country and willingness to serve and their sacrifice for for the common good and whereas just as our forefathers imagined America has a ready and capable new generation of military members fighting with honor for justice while safeguarding Freedom around the globe and whereas 53 veterans banners purchased by Gilbert residents are hung in Gilbert's Heritage district for Memorial Day Independence Day and Veterans Day honoring veterans and now I therefore Bridget Peterson mayor of the town of Gilbert Arizona do hereby Proclaim November 8th through 15th 2024 as veterans week 2024 and I encourage Gilbert residents to honor the heroism courage and sacrifice of our veterans by attending Gilbert's 20th annual veteran ceremony held on Town Hall front lawn at 50 East Civic Center Drive on Friday November 8th 2024 beginning at 11:00 a.m. which will recognize and remember those who have served and those who whose ultimate sacrifice ensured our freedoms remain in place the these are members of our veterans Advisory Board I'm going to let them introduce themselves and let you know what their position is on the board Charles thank you and what what service you know what rank you know what I mean so my name is chief warrn officer to retired Charles Dy and I was in the United States Marines I currently serve as the chair of the veterans Advisory Board and I do have one small ask if you know a veteran could you please have them visit the town site and visit the veteran resources page there is a get involved button on there we can't really be the voice for our veterans in the town unless we have veteran participation I think that's our greatest shortfall right now so if we could get ask your help for that we would be much appreciative hi I'm Pamela Rin Smith I'm also a marine veteran and I am the pillar lead for the USS Arizona hi Les presic I'm past chairman of the veterans Advisory Board I am not a veteran other than of that diet and a few other things and a lot of community service and I saw the same Hallmark movie that you were talking about and I left a har Hallmark Christmas movie to come here anyway thank thank you mayor for for the proclamation thank you counil for all the support that you've given us and and what we do for the veterans thank you thank you Charles great message that is one of the places that we fall short as being able to sign up as many veterans as that we know live in Gilbert and we'd love to see them get involved or just come out for a coffee or something if any veterans in the audience will you please stand and be recognized thank you for your service thank you for attending this evening and now I want to make one more comment I would like to have council member tilki come down for a group photo with us but I also want to make a comment about Monica d deeno one of our veterans Advisory board members Dave Rosenfeld couldn't be here and he's our former chair just stepped on his chair Charles stepped in as the new chair and Dave sent us an email and asked that Monica be recognized publicly and I'm taking the opportunity to do that right now even though she's going to kill me she's gonna kill me she's the council aid for us and like I said she is the liais on to the veterans Advisory board but Dave really wanted to make it known that Monica has stood by this board from day one it's about four years old since its Inception as a board and um she has been there for everything through thick and thin for them she even purchased her own Banner of her grandfather to be hung last year with the banners in downtown Gilbert and so I want to give her a special Round of Applause too had to take that Advantage I know um now we're going to take a photo and if you're looking for those veteran banners this year they'll be put up at the end of October leading into Veterans Day and making sure that it covers November 8th when we have the event going on here at Town Hall e next we'll have a presentation on the FY 2024 Gilbert Benchmark Mark report by Janice Hart manage management budget analyst 2 good evening everyone so this will be the 2024 Gilbert Benchmark report so The Benchmark report encompasses 75 different benchmarks across eight major functional areas 24 of our departments and divisions we Benchmark against 41 communities and across 13 different states and so as we start here for context when we're looking at the information anything that is going to be below our average will be reflected in the blue anything that is above the average will be reflected in the orange and then the average you'll see there in the yellow so starting out with the FY 2024 full-time employees per 1,000 residents we can see here again that Gilbert comes in below the average about 6.14 total FTE per 1,000 residents but still an increase compared to our 2022 report as we look at uh maintaining a high General obligation Bond rating we can see here that um compared to 2022 Gilbert continues to maintain a TW a AAA Bond rating for 2024 which again helps to allow the town to show that we're managing the finances well and put us in a good position in case we do need to borrow and receive lower interest rates as we make those obligations as we look at the hotel occupancy average annual rate this is an area where we saw significant Improvement compared to the 22 report uh Gilbert comes in strongly at 75.3% as reflected in the data here compared to the previous year uh report where we were at 59% and this is significant because this shows significant uh bounceback postco as well as we look at the vacancy rate of all of our commercial property within the community we can see here we've made significant strides in 2024 report for an improvement in this area coming in at 4.4% vacancy which is again below that average of 6.9% but also showing again significant decrease as far as a vacancy compared to our previous report in 2022 when we're looking at the percent of customers who receive their statements electronically these are the utility statements we can see overall there was an increase across all communities in this area so more folks are utilizing electronic statements Gilbert again comes in above average showing at 43% here in the data so again significant Improvement in getting customers to utilize the electronic statements as we look at the number of sworn officers per 1,000 for the 22 24 report here again we're seeing we've come in at 1.17 so again an increase compared to our previous report in 22 with the officers per 1,000 residents and then as we're looking at the average uh fire response times for 90% of calls coming in again below the average here 6 minutes 39 seconds for the town of Gilbert so again overall doing very well in this area and then as we look at our surface versus groundwater usage again SE significant Improvement compared to our previous report report in 2022 still some opportunities for growth and Improvement overall in this sector but we are making strides and then as we look at the average annual trash per household this is an area where Gilbert continues to lead the pack we do produce a significant amount of trash but we are bringing that number down slowly and hope to continue on that Trend any questions any questions seeing none great presentation Janice thank you guys we app appreciate it I appreciate two months in a row that you got right and I love the Hallmark movies too I just got to put it out there I record them all I'm a sucker for the Hallmark movies I can't sto my husband says the stories are all the same but whatever they're still the best you can rewatch them a million times thank you I appreciate you and all you do and your team now we will move into the public hearing portion of our agenda items will be heard at one public hearing at which time anyone wishing to comment on a public hearing item may do so we have I will open the public hearing we have um five items on our public hearing agenda two liquor licenses two property Acquisitions and our fees does anyone want a separate presentation on the two liquor licenses or the property Acquisitions seeing none then I will close the public hearing on items 5 six7 and 8 and I would entertain a motion on those four items I make a motion to approve number six five six7 and eight I'll second that I have a motion by council member Buckley seconded by council member ban Giovani please vote motion passes 70 items 567 and 8 have passed unanimously moving on to item number nine which is fees consider adoption of ordinance number 29 2918 to amend the town tax code to increase the general sales tax rate from 1.5% to 2.0% the use tax rate from 0% to 2.0% and the bed tax rate from 2.8% to 5% and B adoption of resolution number 4515 declaring the 2025 use tax amendments to the tax code of the town of Gilbert as a public document um if I could open the public hearing on that item and ask I'm assuming Kelly f to come down for a presentation and Patrick bager am I seeing a team effort here yeah we've got several members that we'll be presenting tonight mayor thank you Patrick I always go to Kelly for the first because you know she's the budget girl oh good oh down at the podium even Patrick wow it's big time indeed all right if we want to go go ahead and bring those up are you controlling it from there okay great so mayor members of the council we have a short presentation for you that you have seen before it past Retreats but we wanted to cover that again to give some context um on the projects that will be funded through the rate increases that you will have up for consideration tonight we're going to run through why it's important the identified projects themselves the funding options and sources how we Stack Up region Ally before and after the next steps in this process and then we're happy to answer any questions you may have go to the next slide or is is this working okay great so as we're all very much aware we will be transitioning into buildout within the next 5 to seven years depending on some development decisions in our community and the local economy but we are nearing the end of what has been a 100-year history up to this point of transitioning from a small agrarian time Town into a major uh suburban American city and at that point we will switch our Focus from these final few Investments to maintain our quality of life to long-term maintenance of our infrastructure uh and management of those assets the 100-year journey as i' mentioned has seen us transition from a town of roughly 500 people the first 50 years of our existence to a community that now is closing in on 290,000 residents and we will uh projected to go as high as 330,000 residents depending on some final decisions on land use that makes us the 76th largest city in America right now and there are over 19,000 cities in this country and at 72 square miles we are very large geographically we are bigger than a lot of major American cities such as Boston DC Miami Minneapolis St Louis San Francisco Seattle we don't have those dense Urban business business districts that those communities have but we do serve uh a greater size by way of land mass which means more miles of Roads water lines sewer lines and we have a very large infrastructure base to maintain and care for and we built a quality of life that our residents greatly enjoy and it's become one of the driving factors to our growth for residents and businesses we regularly receive accolades uh in various aspects of this quality of life and we very much have Keen focus on maintaining those levels but we still have our challenges and opportunities for improvement as we all know these quality investment uh quality of life Investments that we will run for through for you tonight will help the community meet our needs and help set us up for long-term sustainability of this quality of life and up to this point we've employed uh a lot of different measures to stretch our dollars and do everything we can to be good stores of the tax dollar such as obtaining the Chandler Heights a park and recreational easement on the Chandler Heights detention Basin from Maricopa County that allowed us to then sell excess Park land and use those funds to develop the first phases of Gilbert Regional as well as desert sky without issuing any additional debt to do so we've also done things like build our new and expand our Dispatch Center as well as our Emergency Operations Center within existing space in our buildings and cash fund those projects but we are at a point now with projects and Investments that have to be made that we've um exhausted all of their options and now we need to look at funding opportunities uh to move these things forward so with that I'm going to turn it over to Chief angstead he'll walk you through the items in the police department and we'll go from there thank you good evening mayor and councel um this first slide that we're going to jump into if we can get to the next one here uh with regard to the police department there we go is our Advocacy Center I know you've heard uh some presentations on it but we are in the final design phase right now uh for those in our audience or online that aren't familiar with what an Advocacy Center is uh imagine being a victim of an intimate violent crime uh likely you were initially contacted by somebody that looks like me in a uniform uh but then what uh in in the mind of that victim uh how and where will I be interviewed how and where uh will forensic evidence be collected from my body how and where will I get medical treatment how and where will I meet with a counselor to pick up the pieces of my life uh currently this process requires the police to take victims to various locations around the valley to accomplish all of those tasks and the effort here with this Advocacy Center is to consolidate all of those different elements into one location uh simply put this Advocacy Center uh allows Gilbert government to look out for Gilbert citizens next is a slide that speaks to a crime lab or the future um idea of a crime lab currently the Gilbert Police Department doesn't have a crime lab we Contract Services through the city of Mesa and they provide great quality service now uh our concern is growth in the future the importance of a crime lab is demonstrated on this slide uh simply put there's a much higher solvability rate for cases when evidence is examined at a laboratory as this slide demonstrates offenders are 21 times more likely to be charged in homicide cases than involve forensic evidence that's processed at a lab there's also a much higher rate of conviction for sexual assaults along with a higher rate of robbery cases being resolved uh the particular um relevance of this slide is it it's talking about three different crime types that are often uh serial crimes meaning that offenders go out out and reoffend um in these categories um the quicker that we can identify a suspect ultimately the fewer crimes are committed uh the benefit of us uh someday down the road controlling our own crime lab will be the speed at which we can get results back and uh hold offenders accountable lastly here uh this this slide speaks to the central and Santan police stations um I'll start with the Central Station across the street uh when we opened the building in 2003 I will tell you I thought I died and went to heaven uh it was a godsend across the street and um I was and still I'm very thankful to our Council for approving that facility back then we served roughly 150,000 citizens and we strived to staff 130 officers um no expansion has ever been conducted for that overall foot print across the street we've moved some things around as you know we've remodeled our EOC we've remodeled our dispatch but the the actual space has not changed um to relieve some of that growth pressure the Santan substation at Queen Creek and Greenfield open in 2007 at that time our population was around 207,000 citizens and as uh we discussed this morning at a grand opening of uh the first two-story Starbucks in the country uh we're now staring down the barrel of around 290,000 citizens and as nostalgic as I am about both of our facilities existing facilities if I'm being honest with myself we're just playing out of space uh We've converted work areas into locker rooms and closets into offices and uh we're busting at the seams turn it over to chap duin mayor council thank you for the opportunity to review quickly uh the three mer main areas of of projects for for the fire department uh the first we have here is a public safety large apparatus maintenance facility uh ensuring a reliable Fleet of apparatus is a a vital component to maintaining our service levels by minimizing our response times the existing facility we're utilizing now South area service center was built over 20 years ago and has insufficient needs for today let alone our buildout um to the buildout in 2032 as you can see in the picture our mechanics uh across the whole Fleet are forced to work outside most of the year we don't have enough base space for our mechanics to work in climate controlled environments thinking of the record-breaking heat we have this summer our mechanics had to endure extreme heat for for over three months of the year in this environment we have actually run calls to our Mechanics for heat related injuries in years past as a result to some of the working conditions having to be outside instead of in a climate controlled environment uh by adding an additional Public Safety large apparatus maintenance facility that will allow the primarily the fire Fleet and some of the other large apparatus to move to a separate building which would then allow the remainder of the environmental Fleet to occupy those spaces which we believe will then allow our mechanics to work in climate controlled spaces a majority of the time instead of having to do the extreme Heats they do now this next slide talks a little bit about how we maintain response times maintaining low response times is the number one request of our residents and businesses every time we pull them no matter what the survey is engagement surveys in the community or general performance reviews they always ask for low response times maintaining or improving those response times is a pillar of our accreditation our strategic plan over the next 5 years we accomplish this by placing the right unit in the right place and as I said before they're reliable apparatus we use data to help drive and determine where our apparatus need to be this is just one of the graphics we utilize that represents response times and the Diamonds you see there in the middle which is green it's a 4minute response time the second diamond yellow six minutes and red 8 Minute response time so we use this to tell how quickly can our units get to a majority parts of the town and then what types of calls are be responding to we use this data again to determine where the calls are recurring and how it best to deploy assets to reduce response times maximize our Effectiveness uh what one of the the main areas this graphic shows is our Hazmat unit which is currently located at station 5 down off at Germaine and Higley by the data should be located at station 4 Lindsay and Ray right around the corner but unfortunately that is our oldest Station built in 1999 it has insufficient dorm space and Bay space to accommodate the units the people and the equipment we need to support a Hazmat unit and also Transportation unit which should also be at this location so this shows an example of one of the graphs we utilize to determine where our asset should be placed uh as we look to the other fire station projects to the right it's got the fire station rebuild located on there because we do have to rebuild that station because it's insufficient the remainder of the stations 286 and five are prioritized based on anticipated call volume in the future we do our Predictive Analytics to determine when we're going to need to bring additional resources to these stations with the goal again of maintaining low response times as call volume increases last fire Administration we'll take a page out of PD's ability to cram people into storage spaces this shows a picture right now of our current fire marshall Tim Simon's work location is a repurposed storage room in one of the corners of the remaining spaces in the public safety building the picture to the right shows an awkward picture kind of a uh door stop shaped remainder of what's left of the original fire admin our previous space was insufficient to support the buildout needs of the organization and because of the EOC project which was a critical project for the long-term sustainability and safety of this town uh was needed to expand I took up about half of the existing square footage of a space that was already insufficient but again as we found out in the last few years the criticality of having a well- functioning EOC superseded the short-term needs of fire admin we temporarily and currently relocated the public training facility the issues we're having now is that we're limiting the functionality of that building uh we are utilizing spaces need to be filled with fire and PD training staff as we're preparing particularly on the fire side for our retirement Cliff that's coming we need those spaces filled with offices and training staff they're going to be able to train the next batch of firefighters paramedics Engineers captains Battalion Chiefs right now we're limiting the ability to do that because we're occupying those spaces and PD has similar needs along the way that we're cering the function of that to be able to fully train our crews for the buildout needs of our future with that we're going to switch over Robert Carmona from Parks and W all right good evening uh mayor and Council so the theme of the next few slides for you is going to be uh really in regards to Parks and Recreation the overall concept is the highquality park system continues to to thrive but we are at Max Capacity with what we can handle not only for the residents when it comes to programming but also uh Park usage um you know just a a few fun data facts you know in 2022 alone when we ran our data we were at 5.2 million uh people utilizing our Parks and Recreation system uh based on the increases we have seen with continued Park programming and park visits that numbers well above uh 5.6 million uh just about a year or two later but as we go through it uh 20124 was a a big year in 2023 we really took our time to engage with with the public in the Parks and Recreation master plan happy to say through that effort it was the number one nationally recognized Community engagement master plan uh really across the country and and what that equates to is uh the previous uh record engagement number was about 30,000 uh we uh had an engagement number of about 62,000 overall and that really spanned from a series of events uh throughout the entire Community uh throughout all of Gilbert all all ages all age ranges um to really understand what the public needed from us moving into the future but also part of that Parks and Recreation master plan showed us some interesting data as it went through in just a few short years uh you know parks recreation seen an increase of about 63% in our Aquatics attendance uh 45% in our special event attendance 55% increase in the recreation program so that right there alone leads to some of those larger capacities where if people want to register for particular programs or get a rental at a park uh there's even parties that happen to make sure that they register at midnight the night that those classes uh come out cuz if not that will be full uh the very next day uh and a couple other pieces of information that kind of helped show that is even within the residents uh through the master plan process about 28% cited not using our pro programs and Parks simply because they were too full to utilize and when we looked at that data even more the national average for that is only about 3% so Gilbert is well above the national Norm of people not being able to utilize the services just for those being to full and on top of that when you look at the customer satisfaction of the people who are utilizing the facilities the the programs the events about 93% and when we think about those you know 5 million plus visitors um at a 93% customer satisfaction rate of either good or excellent shows that high quality programming that our team Prides itself in um but also we know that in that same data that there's a lot of people were not able to serve or get to because those are simply too full to participate in and with that um you know we love to speak about the good numbers but there's also a lot of opportunities for improvement and I think the data also showed some some areas in which we weren't doing as well simply because that system was at Max Capacity so if you see where we rank up nationally um you know not to mention the amount of programs the satisfaction but overall you know we're last among the top 100 you know Park systems in terms of population with the amount of amenities that are available uh to our citizens you we know we have a high population of of younger families um in the nation we're second lowest per capita for actually having enough playgrounds to service um all of those families and also looking at Just Between the valley uh per 1,000 residents Janice had the the presentation earlier um we're third worst in terms of the valley for developed Park acreage per thousand residents that are that are available for Gilbert now when we take a look at what that engagement process uh looked like um that Community engagement with with everybody in Gilbert counseled with the the council workshops that we had with the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board taking a look at all the feedback from the master plan engagement the community impact and sort of the geographical accessibility of where our all of our current amenities are it spans from more than just park development it's everything from multi-use paths lighted Trails um and that that Park development system and when you see it the the projected projects or the prioritized list really spans all across Gilbert it's not just serving you know one specific region or one specific population and to kind of show that we're highlighting two of the projects um even though there were there were a couple more um but we'll start with Gilbert Regional Park um obviously uh no one's probably new to to Gilbert Regional Park uh 50 acres were developed in in 2019 and 2020 um it is uh in the top five most visited parks in all of Arizona just that that beginning 50 acres but there's still about 185 Acres remaining uh left for development and when we take a look at it it really spans from all of the feedback we received from the community and you're going to see a grouping of amenities that are really for everybody all ages all abilities in Gilbert from those multi-use Sports fields to skate parks to bite parks to dog parks to those Community areas and the desert a Royo natural trails and Landscape areas really speaking to all of Gilbert which was a was a lot of uh the interest that the public had during that engagement process another good example uh desert sky park in that Park development about 30 Acres were developed in 2019 um those fields are consistently full and when we know from our field needs assessment um that we are very short on fields and the fields that we do have um they're not available for rent very often uh they're usually full but we're also running them to depletion so they're no longer going to be able to be maintainable in the future if we don't have additional multi-use Fields not only for our residents to use today but also to be able to to uh move those fields around for maintenance periods but it's more than just multi-use Fields accessible playgrounds Trail heads to the to the trail connection system uh amongst a lot of other items and with that I'm going to hand it over to Kelly thank you mayor and Council uh as you're aware there's a lot of infrastructure that's needed and our current funding sources are not able to support the level of infrastructure that is needed here and so as we talked about uh in earlier conversations the revenue streams that we have that might be able to to support this level of infrastructure would be property tax or sales tax Gilbert does not have a primary property tax uh instead we have a secondary property tax which only pays for bonds for things that voters approve on a ballot uh if we went primary if we went a property tax way uh only our residents and businesses would help pay for this infrastructure as opposed to sales tax where residents uh businesses and visitors would all help pay for the infrastructure that was being used also a secondary prop proper tax uh the infrastructure has to be bonded for and we have to pay it back with interest on secondary property tax the town is able to cash fund or bond fund uh and the hope for this infrastructure would be a to cash fund as much as possible and then Bond only what's needed for cash flow purposes because the infrastructure is needed kind of upfront in the time period um and so Council gave the direction to go ahead and look at the sales tax tonight we're looking at a group of sales tax use tax and bed tax sales tax being what you typically think of and and pay when you purchase items use tax is paid by residents or businesses when they purchase items online from vendors that do less than $100,000 of sales in Arizona if they do more than $100,000 of sales it becomes by definition sales tax and they pay the sales tax for that and then bed tax is paid by uh people who are visiting in hotels motels or short-term rentals for a period of less than 30 consecutive days the sales tax rate that's being uh requested is uh we're currently at 1.5% we've been there for since 2000 it was at 1% from 1973 to the year 2000 uh and what it's anticipated is to move to 2% that puts us in the middle of our regional peers um of the larger cities here in Maricopa County if we look at where Gilbert would put us in the whole state this is all of the 91 cities and towns uh Gilbert's at the 1.5% Chandler is the only other city uh at 1.5 and they also have a primary property tax which helps pay for their infrastructure as we mentioned Gilbert does not um most of our infrastructure most of our programs are paid with um sales tax you can see most of the Cities across the state are in 2 and 3% range for their sales tax rate their retail rate there are a few that are at four and 5% for contexted the use tax uh currently Gilbert has a 0% rate all of our other cities uh pure cities are charging a use tax The Proposal is to go to 2% this is in the middle of the range and would match the sales tax rate as well the bed tax rate is currently being charged at 2.8% and the proposal would be at 5% most of the other cities and towns are charging the 5% rate so it would be um comparable with that we have uh been talking about the infrastructure for a long number of years and looking at what the town needs we had a council Workshop in December really honing in And discussing that had uh a retreat in March talking about what the finances could look like in August there was a notice of intent to the public to be able to talk about possibly raising these rates tonight so tonight is the public hearing for these rates if approved they will go into effect uh on January 1st 2025 the impact for most citizens uh on the sales tax is about 50 cents when they spend $100 at the store or or on their receipt and in that we would get the infrastructure that was described tonight with the public safety police fire and Parks and Recreation needed for our community there is more information about all of these projects on our website there's a QR code here or a shorter link it is on uh our website you can go through and read about all of those different projects as well and with that Patrick thank you K Kelly mayor and members of the council we now have answer any questions you may have thanks Patrick thanks Kelly thanks Chief dougen thanks assistant chief angstead thank you Robert appreciate the presentations this evening any questions oh council member torguson I thought we had decided that the uh crime lab was something that was going to go further down the line and not part of what we're talking about tonight and it was specifically presented tonight and my understanding is we took that off the the he and now mayor Peterson council member Tason we are in active discussions with Chandler as we speak about potentially partnering on a joint crime crime lab between our two cities so we are uh continuing to evaluate the possibilities of that the direction that Council gave us at the retreat was to explore that opportunity and then come back to us uh with the final results of what that could look like sounds that sounds about right and a decision as to whether or not to move forward if it was going to be Gilbert only made the decision was not Gilbert only to look at other options yes thank you any other question council member bani thank you mayor um Kelly I just want to get my numbers right here 5.3 million people come to Gilbert every year correct mayor council member Bon ganni that is a number I would have to look at Economic Development or somebody else for not my area of expertise I'm sorry mayor council member Bon gani I believe that's just for our parks and recreational amenities and programs there are other visitors that come for shopping uh and other activities and venues okay and they would come to Gilbert spend money and we will collect a sales tax from them also correct yes that's correct so in essence they're helping to pay for our infrastructure needs yes okay thank you any other questions at this time or I can go ahead and start the public comment okay we'll go to public comment I received um a sheet from the clerk's office that we had seven comments online one was in support of this item and six were opposed we'll have that in the record I also have two slips from um residents not wishing to speak but are against this Aon auro and Mark Thompson for the record and then for public hearing I will invite up James Ashley James I believe you're with the Home Builders Association nice to see you thank you for joining us this evening thank you very much good evening mayor members of the council I am James Ashley with the Home Builders Association of central Arizona we represent the single family residential construction industry and all the related trades our members employ tens of thousands of workers throughout the state and our members invest hundreds of millions of dollars annually here in Gilbert thank you very much for this opportunity to comment on the town's proposed tax increase when we became aware of the proposal the hbaca submitted a letter to the town on September 30th expressing our opposition to the sales tax increase specifically related to the construction tax this proposal is also on the heels of a significant increase in the development impact fees an increase of 125% in North Gilbert and 95% in South Gilbert however aside from the previously approved development impact fees the September 30th letter it raised legality of increasing the construction tax following the passage of proposition 126 and 2018 which generally prohibits a tax increase on any service provided in the state within the town's definitions of construction contractor references to construct alter or improve are all forms of work labor done for another therefore not a tax on the sale of goods or tangible personal property and this is out of Gilbert Municipal Code section 58-1 100 we noted our position that construction and Contracting is a service and therefore any increased tax on construction or Contracting would be uncons institutional therefore this evening we reiterate these comments in opposition to this increase and I'd like to thank you very much for your time this evening thank you James any comments for James questions council member torguson well was actually going to be more for John I wanted to see what your position on him saying that it's uncons you know unconstitutional and uh against code well the fact that we're here indicates that we disagree with that position um and if we want to you know discuss it in executive session I'm happy to step out with you should you decide and that's what I was going to recommend if there are legal questions we could um move to an executive session for a few minutes and handle that but let's get through the public hearing process first that's okay thank you thanks James nice to see you Michael Benson next after Michael will be Brock Wilson I forgot to do the on Deck thank you for the opportunity to speak um speaking in opposition to item nine uh specifically the tax increase uh for sales tax and use tax I think right now in the current economic climate that this should be further evaluated I think it's going to have a negative impact on all the residents here I think there should be greater transparency and accountability in terms of the spending and I'm asking that the uh Town Council to lay a vote on those two items and uh take a further look into this and perhaps uh build a uh Community um group to discuss it thank you very much thanks Michael thank you for your email too next is Brock Wilson and then Victor Peterson all right thank you Council uh I would like to address mainly the sales tax I have two main points here uh number one with the combined sales tax that we already pay here in Arizona at any Town anywhere in the state we pay some of the highest sales tax in the entire country uh the the other item is that the fact that we have a lower combined rate here in Gilbert is actually a good thing because it makes it more attractive for people who are shopping making large purchases so I think it's in our best interest to keep these rates as low as possible uh thank you I yield my time thanks Brock next is Victor Peterson thanks Victor Victor I'm sorry we don't have any way to show um anything that youve sub would like to submit or Show online if we don't have the old Elmo from what you remembering when you were on Council thanks for joining us thank you back in my time we were able to show some displays to illustrate items uh thank you for the time let me just start with the one comment um thank you for your service uh I know a lot of people don't do that um obviously I'm here in opposition into the proposal but I also know that a lot of work goes into what you do um also I'll just comment for uh personal circumstances Beyond My Control have not been able to be involved previously the last time I was standing in front of the council fighting a tax increase I had a mob of people with me I don't have that tonight although I wouldn't rule that out for the future um so I'm going to bring up an uncomfortable example to start you'll notice in that Benchmark survey which I saw eight times cuz I sat on that dice for for eight years uh we always bragged about our lowest cost of service we can no longer do that Chandler wins that award and that's changed not only that if you notice the Benchmark survey Chandler's kicking butt in lots of areas there they have lower response times than we do I've done some research they have more Parks than we do um and they also will still have 1.5% after tonight and we sounds like maybe we won't and again I know I'm too little too late but I couldn't uh rest without at least making some comments I'm disappointed with where We've Ended up and um so I just want to point out we have Americans already struggling with inflation and the town's revenues over the last four years have increased 50% far outpacing citizens wages I wish I could say that about my salary 50% increase over the last four years now some argue that population growth and inflation justify higher taxes I can't show you my rad chart I wish I could but what it would show you is that we had a history that we followed population and inflation for a while and when the council departed they proposed a tax increase years ago in 200 uh around 10 9 10 and we defeated it and all those council members were voted off the council and in fact that was why I got on the council cuz I was part of that group um here's the problem I wish I could show you the chart but what you'll see is that our trajectory is the bigger issue guys you're going to raise revenues but your trajectory of expenditures does not map anywhere in a sustainable way it doesn't and you're going to continue you're going to adjust one time you're going to feel some breathing room and it's going to be a few years and we're going to be back here again because our trajectory will not map with the economics it will fall apart so I don't mean any insult but it's an easy way out to do this tax increase there's hard work that needs to be done and it's to live within your means you can do it now or we can figure it out later but we're going to be back here again thank you thanks Victor nice to see you this evening if you'd like to give your charts to um the clerk's office they'd be happy to share them with us thank you thanks Victor um wait yes T there was things that you and I spoke about and I promis I'd get in deeper and I'd like to make that available to you I'm not allowed toach know you though so we've known you a long time um thank you for your comments I will go ahead and bring this discussion back to the council um we still have a we still have public hearing open vice mayor did you have a comment I was just going to request that I didn't hear a lot of comments about the bed tax could we do this in the a reverse order and talk about the bed tax than the use and sales tax I think it'd be great to separate them out um in into separate motions and discussions even um I'm going to ask the council though did you want to go into an executive session to talk legal items or are you comfortable with where we are at and I'm seeing no over this end yes no I'm one has the slightest question so I'm going to say let's move forward okay um I think that our town attorney Chris Payne I know John's sitting over there right now our town attorney Chris Payne sent us out an email about that if you'd like to even refer to that if possible and then I will go ahead and close public hearing and bring it back to the DI I didn't want to do that until we were ready to discuss we can discuss each item individually would you like to start with the bed talks vice mayor well the only comment I'd have about the bed tax is that we originally had a higher tax that was cut a number of years ago and I'll tell you that we had a room full of opposition by the hotel years who did not want to cut that tax and I think that the fact that this this is being paid by the visitors that come to the community it's it's an important point to remember Council May ran Giovani thank you mayor from my from what I understand also a percent of that uh that tax has to be used for tourism um which creates more visitation more visitors which creates more visitors spending money here which creates more um tax allotment that outside people pay right than the Gilbert residents counc member torguson most of my comments were going to mirror that but the fact that it it is something that is used to create more Revenue for this town and that no resident unless they've got a station for some reason on a Saturday somewhere there's not one resident of this town that's going to come out of pocket on that this is going to be the tourists that come here and there is no one that picks municipality based on the bed tax and there's seriously only like one or two that would be below us anyhow uh and the bed tax is far less than Los Angeles let me tell you I was there a couple weeks ago it was as much as the rent uh or the the hotel stay um it as a business proposition it does nothing but make money for the residents of this town it that you don't pay for it and you get a benefit so I can't see a loss on that until you turn the number to something that would be repugnant to a to a uh a visitor and I simply don't think being at the lower end or at the same level as most of the larger municipalities would be uh deterrent for anyone to come to Gilbert I will point out that um I'm going to agree with vice mayor Anderson first there was a a reduction in the bed tax several years ago and the hotel years did come in and oppose it because they said that it did go towards specifically towards tourism and at that point we had less hotels we have more hotels today we had less hotels at that point and they wanted really any amount of money going in into the coffers for tourism at the time to bring people to Gilbert which was very important but we did vote to lower it at that point it was a 5-2 vote um and you're correct except I have stayed at a hotel in Gilbert because I was remodeling my house so that would be an opportunity where the Gilbert resident would you know possibly need to stay or you're moving and you have to be out of one house before you can get into another house I did have the question that could we have this so that Gilbert residents wouldn't be affected by that and I don't I know if anybody can answer that question Kelly do you know that question that Gilbert residence could be um yeah just they didn't have to pay the bed tax if they stayed at a Gilbert Hotel you'd have to prove occupany obviously I had a phone a friend of our tax manager right next to me and she gave a very definitive note it has to be equal across all people paying it I had a feeling that's what the answer was going to be because we can't give gifts away and things like that too so everything with taxes has to be fair so um would someone like to try a motion for just the bed tax I think we should split these out to make it clear and easy for everybody to understand or any other comments on the bud tax don't everybody jump at once I'll make the motion mayor yeah we have a motion all in one on your agenda packet so I think we better stick to that and just finish discussion and then then vote on them all at once we can't split them out separately if we're still going to cover each item individually John are you going to tell me no yeah we've all got them they're all written up into one ordinance okay and we had a discussion on the bed tax um would we like to move to the use tax next who would like to start that discussion you know again looking at use tax I don't know how many people here shop online uh trying to avoid a tax when every municipality around us takes advantage of that I I think it's great if you can save a couple percent fantastic but uh overall it's with the move away from brick and mortar and more and more that's being bought online I think that we're doing harm to ourselves by encouraging that behavior we're encouraging it not maybe nobody shops over 2% maybe nobody cares uh but it's certainly if we continue to follow that path and the less that we we get from brick and mortar and if we don't pay attention to creating more sales creating more tourism uh we are harming ourselves as a population we're harming ourselves so I I am supportive of as as much as it pains me and this is the most painful meeting I've been part of since I've been up here for me because it's this is hard for me to to say but I think that it's necessary cheli I can't get my screen to go back to the one that I can see council members wanting to speak here I believe if you push that green button it should I did several times we'll get someone over there to take a look thank you sorry um I'll I'll just watch everybody's mic microphones if you want to speak please just flag me cuz I can't use my monitor right now um any other comments on the use TX okay then we'll move on to the sales tax discussion council member kki council member thank you um you know this is a difficult decision that is our job to make we met um in December of last year and in March at our Spring financial Retreat and we considered multiple options of finding sources of revenue um for these projects that were presented earlier Gilbert residents expect an excellent and quality of life we set a really high bar but with growth comes challenges and the project shown I don't think are ones that we were willing to cut off the table and that's why we're here on the dis making this decision today I support the improvements presented um because I do want to focus on better parks and trails for walking and biking in our community that's why I got on Counsel and I will continue to back our police and fire departments on the resources that they need and having space for them to work in our like in the buildings um and space for our apparatus to be worked on I mean those are just basic necessities so the proposed sales tax increase from the 1 and a half% to 2% will fund these key projects and as we had talked about earlier in the year we did consider other options a combination of raising property taxes we don't have a primary property tax but that would be one option um but I think we we all discussed that the sales tax increase would be more Equitable because it spreads the cost across everyone who spends money in Gilbert not just homeowners and local businesses and it's a way that we can enhance our community without placing an extra burden on our residents property taxes additionally there's just equity in the fact that people that have more to spend or choose to spend more can then contribute more um so overall I think that this proposed sales tax increase is going to really help create that safer more connected Gilbert that we strive for and although it's a very hard decision it's been 25 years since our last sales tax increase this is a more volatile um Revenue Source but I think it's the smart one at this point council member torguson I I also wanted to point out some of the things that people are unaware of uh and I I say this with all condescension and in intent the big brains that the the the state cut out rental tax most people in this room were opposing more apartments yet the councils before us approved many thousands of apartments starting this year we will no longer be able to get a rental tax that took takes about $9 million out of the budget the next year and in of course of five years that would be $19 million a year out of the budget uh they went for food tax which as an individual as somebody that's extremely conservative uh I don't like food tax I don't like it because I feel that taxes if nothing else a basic necessity and especially the poor disproportionately I have been the guy that's been in line at the market and paid for somebody's milk because she had a kid in there and she couldn't afford 104 bucks or whatever her thing came up to because a tax and I paid for for a gallon of milk I threw five bucks down and said hey I've got it today uh I don't like it but when when and if they take that that's probably $20 million a year out of the current budget and has been was moved on last year and didn't move forward uh the way that shared revenues have been done I believe the hit was 24 million is what they're saying the hit is per year because the state in their saving money saved it by not sharing it with municipalities the way that they've done this uh there's a huge portion of shared Revenue not coming to municipalities so there's a choke on the money that's coming in that would go in to pay for some of these things and I want everybody in this room to understand again I'm easily the most conservative person up here when the bond was up I was the sole guy pounding against it publicly it almost didn't pass uh and I don't like property tax I despise property tax but the only way to get away from that is we have we have to a hopefully our legislature is done trimming our budget for us and B to make it something where at least in a conservative thought it's a transactional uh thing you're you're participating in something you can choose to buy a steak dinner for $100 or not and that stake dinner will cost you $100 .50 I understand but I would rather have that than pay more property tax every year and have senior citizens who are extremely fixed and usually you could be a a widow in in a million dooll home and you're it's going up and it's going up and you're getting a bond pass because it's not paid for for out of sales tax and you have no say you have no recourse at that point uh it's much more equable it's fair it's sadly necessary at this point and it pains me to support this but I have to support at this point cu no one that has challenged me and just said cut 20% from this cut this cut something they've never come up with a project to cut they've never come up with anything except fire this person fire that person well a I can't do that individually and B what $100,000 out of a $2.3 billion budget is not going to put us over the edge we have to find specific things and if we're willing to live with potholes and not enough Parks so be it people need to speak up and say I will put up with fewer Parks I know I had Parks as a kid but I don't want anybody else to have those Parks I don't want Landscaping median it's a waste of money and I don't you know I don't want I don't care about potholes and I don't care about the time that the fire department gets to me cuz we need to build something new to keep it under 5 minutes I don't care if I get that or not I don't want to spend a dime and if somebody's that narcissistic I'm sorry I can't support that I'm more than willing to hear anything to try and shave money off this to try and not spend this money to try to be the best Steward of the dollar that you spend or the dollar you're taxed in some form in this town but I haven't found any large things at this point that I can take out of it and this just pains me and I have done more time than anyone trying to find a way around it and I just can't find a way around I will not put my personal ideology ahead of of the people of this town and what they expect because they want everything for nothing and there's only a couple levers to move and this one unfortunately is going to have to move unless we want to move down the lever of what we expect as a town and the quality that we expect from our town and this may change but the biggest elephant in the room is what this town pays for is construction of Roads things like that construction is outpacing biomics which people anywhere want to say a CPI of 2.6% to 133% over the last four years cost of construction is up an average of 88% not two not 6 not 13 88% and that's what these taxes are going to go to pay and this is just wrecking me to have to say this I hate saying this it's I despise saying this but I can't really find a good way around this one and I'm sorry but with the mess that we have for the costs that are going up we all have a choice not to repair a hole in our roof but these seven people up here don't have a choice in repairing the roof for all of us if it's leaking we need to fix it no matter the cost we don't get to have a hole in the roof how we fix it who we use we have some saying and we need to really really be the best stewards of of the money that we're asking for but on a whole I just can't put my personal ideology ahead of the quality that I moved here for that everyone in this room that's a resident moved here for and I'm sorry I've let friends down I've had people say things to me that are irritated me brought me to the just an unbelievable fever because they say the most condescending things but I have to put the residents ahead of my ideology on this I'm sorry council member Bon Giovani thank you mayor you know they say don't follow animals Bears or councilman torguson because it's tough to beat um I want everyone to think of a city that you would never want to live in don't say it out loud place and think of one reason why whether that be traffic crime schools whatever your answer is it comes down to quality of life that's what it comes down to I've heard people all this week talk to me about yeah we understand police and fire but you know this wreck thing is you know stupid why are we spending money on this and comes down to quality of life and and one person's definition of quality of life is different than someone else's definition of quality life I've had people say to me this week it's not the government's responsibility to take care of quality life I beg to differ on that because the Declaration of Independence says that every man I'm going to add woman and child CU that's the kind of guy I am has the right to pursue happiness what is the pursuit of happiness it's quality of life so as Government I think we have the responsibility to create the minimal amount of quality of life to put everyone in a position to have a Pursuit of Happiness and for someone that might be a dog park for someone else that may be a a splash pad for someone else that may be schools and if we get to the slippery slope where we start saying to people well I want to take this out and this out and this out because isn't important to me what happens when you know 60,000 citizens in Gilbert say I don't have the kids in schools anymore so let's not pay school taxes anymore or let's get even more defined and say hey I only want to pay for public schools I don't want to pay for charter schools because they're privately owned or whatever you know that's why you have elected officials up here to to take everything that we get in from people uh and make those really really hard decisions and this one really is horrible I I I I don't like raising taxes but I do like increasing quality of life for people when we look at our sales tax and we compare it with others yeah Chandler at 1.5 they haven't changed since 1994 I'm willing to bet I'm not making any claims but I'm willing to bet Chandler is looking at us tonight saying what happens to Gilbert tonight but we got to remember that Chandler also has a primary and a secondary sales tax property tax Scottdale primary AR and secondary Tempe primary secondary Pia primary secondary Mesa has a secondary it's pretty high Queen Creek has a very high primary tax Phoenix primary secondary Glendale primary secondary Glendale I'm sorry Goodyear primary secondary you see what they all have in common I think everyone up here does not like the even thought of having a primary property tax and staff and Leadership and us have come up with in ative ways so we don't have to have that in our vocabulary right now and I am very happy that a lot of this tax won't be the burden of just Gilbert taxpayers but reality is is I look at it as we're we're six co-pilots up here and we're flying a plane with 288,000 people on our plane and we're not going to make every one of them happy you know when there's turbulence not everyone's happy but I can guarantee you when that plain land safely everyone's satisfied there's a difference between being happy and being satisfied I would rather have people satisfied than always happy because it's impossible to keep everybody happy and I'm willing to bet that that city that you have in your mind that you won't live in I'm willing to bet that that plane did not land safely and that's our goal up here tonight is to be co-pilots and vote on something so we can believe this town will will land safely and with quality of life and that's why I'm I'm in support of all three of these issues tonight council member Buckley well I don't know how to follow these two I'll tell you that but I agree with both of them on everything that that they have stated and I really like your comparisons to the other cities what no one else has talked about very much is how do how did we get to this spot and I did a little bit of research and for eight years in a row Gilbert did not raise any taxes at all eight years in a row a city or a town I I feel I don't know how they can go that many years and not raise taxes and not at some point have it come to a head because you need to prepare for that which we have done and I know the prior prior Council probably did the best they could but I don't feel that they looked that far into the future I've struggled with this ever since this came up and you know what do I do and what what have uh you know what the residents expect and what they expect and what they elected us for is to make sure we and our duty is is to balance the budget make policy and make sure our infrastructure in the town is strong and we can't do that with the amount of money that we have and just like Jim and Chuck both said this this neither of these tax other than the sales tax is probably going to affect us but I just feel that when I yesterday when I went to bed it was like okay I have no idea what to do I am just not going to but you know I'd rather not vote for it I'm sure everybody up here would rather not want to vote on this I think that it's a necessary tax and that we have to do this and for all the reasons that's been stated up here you know I'm I'm in support of these and I think it's the best thing for the town and it's the best thing that we can do to keep the quality of life that we have and in the future vice mayor Anderson just a couple of real quick comments um during Patrick's presentation everybody saw um his slide that had to do with the city of the future and I would encourage anyone who's not familiar with that initiative in the town please go find out from the staff look on our website about city of future initiative thep purpose of the city of the future initiative is to prevent exactly what is happening unfortunately what's happening is and what's ironic about this is what's happening is Town facilities are beginning to Decay and the rest of the town will follow suit if we don't keep up with that the growth and that's the whole purpose of the city of the future and initiative and please go there there's not a day that goes by that I don't get a email from someone who has a complaint about those exact things that we talked about tonight that about the facilities that are woefully inadequate uh about um programs that people can't get into because they're too crowded and we need to address those uh and the best way to address those is again to pay attention to that road map to the Future and you're going to hear that from me a lot more in the future talking about the city of the future initiative because it's extremely important to this town and to the quality of life that council member banon was talking about and for that reason I'll also be supporting these uh initiatives tonight council member tky thank you mayor um I know we've had a lot of conversation this evening and I think for the public to understand that we had a very very long list of priorities that the staff brought to us and we had to whittle that down to what you saw tonight and that was a very hard process and we had to do that first and then we had to figure out how we were going to pay for this um I I hope that nobody feels that this is like a flippant moment for anybody up here it's a very hard decision especially because we've had to make other hard decisions and one thing that I'm proud of this Council for is that we're not kicking that can down the road waiting for somebody else to have to pick it up and figure out how to pay for these um critical projects um you know ever since I can remember Parks and Recreation has been the last to be funded and you can see by the participation that we had from all ages and all abilities looking at um what their priorities are and it speaks a lot to the maturity of Gilbert today we're no longer this shiny new object the fastest growing Community all of that where we had all of this growth dollars coming in to help us pay for all of the things that we have um providing for services and Facilities um we really had to make a choice um do we as was mentioned do we reduce um times response times you know what do we do with all of these important issues and how can we fund it um one option was to raise the property tax and maybe a little sales tax why don't we balance that why don't we make sure we're lower in the sales tax department compared to other communities but the fact that it's tied to your property taxes and your assess valuation we just felt like we had reached the ceiling for our community and so we really didn't have any other options again a lot of those projects even the ones that you saw aren't going to happen right away we're going to have to have the money in place before they happen but those are our top priorities there's a whole list under that so what I don't want any body the think is that once we get done with those projects we're done we're done in Gilbert there's going to be a continual um impact on how we're going to be that city of the future we're not going to deteriorate we're not going to be a community that doesn't have quality of life quality services and unfortunately that's not free and we're going to continue to do our best to keep at the lowest rate that we can um and we have to be courageous for all of our community and so with that I'll be supporting these changes thank you um I I ran against Victor Peterson the first time I ran for Council so it's ironic that he's sitting here in front of us and making comments tonight um my goal was to beat you Victor I came in third you came in fourth we served together for four years um and I ran because ideologically I didn't think that we agreed on things and I thought I was more logical than ideological and I see you smiling down there uh I know you appreciate this and this year has really impacted me a lot and I've been so proud of this Council and I recently had this conversation with another council member that hindsight looking back on the years that I served with you Victor and with Jared Taylor and it was a 5-2 vote consistently right but you kept us even Keel you didn't let us go one way or the other because you were pushing back the way that you did and coming out of this 10 years later I admire that and that's where my hindsight comes in I've told Jared the same thing um this year has been a tough year for galbert we have raised water rates we have residents that are suffering right now because of the raised water rates and we've raised garbage rates and we have residents that are suffering because of that we have to steal a term from ccil Member Tuson biomics that are affecting all of us right now and the economy and they just said that inflation is up again and gas prices went up again these past couple days because I got an email from Sam's Club that said that um I struggle with all of the increases that we've done in the town this year and you know that I have voted against some and coming into this evening I was open to increasing the bed tax and I was open to I was not sure about the use tax because I really struggle with affecting small businesses we just open the Catalyst I'm afraid that we're going to Target small businesses that are startups that are trying to get a place online because we all know that online is where business lives today and as far as the sales tax goes I really I I was struggling with whether to support it or not I hear the needs from the staff and I admire the staff and all of the work that they do and I have supported just about every single thing that you have brought forward over the past 10 years um with work and with consistency and the projects that I see on the list I'm afraid that they aren't in the order that I would want to tackle them on Chief Dugen presented at our Retreat that we're running calls on our own staff at the Fleet Management at the Fleet Center where they're working on our large apparatus that shouldn't be happening in this town we that should be our number one priority prity is fixing that Fleet Center let's make sure that we're not running calls on our staff and I said that at the retreat other things that I just don't think are a priority for me the crime lab I know that we're talking with Chandler and council member tus and brought that up earlier we're talking with Chandler and if Chandler can do it that's one thing but if we have to do that on our own I would be opposed to that um the remodels of some of the fire stations I'm all for rebuilding station 4 I've seen that happened with station 7 we had to take down the old station 7 build a new station 7 it increased everything that was needed for that area but there are just things that I don't see that we are telling the story and that the Ducks are lining up this year for us for me to be voting to increase our sales tax at this time and I know that staff's going to be surprised by that but if you've been listening to me this year it shouldn't shock you because I V voted against the pay raises I asked to lower the travel cost I've been working to try and keep us in that range that I now respect Jared and Victor for doing with us for years and keeping this town at a level that I know it can be I know the projects have been I think out of hand and and I've said this to Patrick when we've met that how do we get to over $1 billion in projects all of a sudden I had a another former council member saying to me and the whole time he was on Council he made like five really important decisions and we make two really important decisions every two months on counil how is that happening all at one time where has the planning gone for the past six to eight years so you know where I stand that's where I'm at I would be happy to take a motion for a and then a separate motion for B so that we can vote on this I'll move uh to approve the adoption of ordinance number 2918 to amend the tax Town tax code to increase the general sales tax rate from 1.5 to 2.0 the use tax rate from 0 to 2.0 and the bed tax rate from 2.8 to 5.0 I have a motion by council member Capri second second and by vice mayor Anderson please vote motion passes 61 with myself being the dissenting vote next motion move to approve adoption of resolution number 4515 declaring the 2025 use tax amendments to the tax code of the town of Gilbert as a public document I have a motion by council member kosi I'll second that seconded by council member Bon Giovani motion passes 70 that ends our public hearing portion of our agenda would anyone like to take a five minute break yes I would thank you we will take a five minute recess e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e what e e e e do like a 30 second warning to get take your seats please go ahead and call this meeting back to order um moving into our consent calendar vice mayor passing to you thank you mayor uh we have several items we're pulling off look at those items s 17 item 23 item 26 item 30 and item 31 that's it yeah 30 and 31 23 and 26 with that I'll move approval of item 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21 22 24 25 27 28 29 32 I'll second that 33 I'll second that motion by vice mayor seconded by Council mayor ban Giovani please vote motion passes 70 back to 17 item 17 council member torguson I I just really wanted to part of this was to say something positive about it but I would love for someone from the police department to come up or fire department and speak about what this actually is and why we have to vote on it to accept it as a donation mayor and Council uh Mike instead from the police department uh this particular item is a donation from a uh citizen it involves two different items it's uh uh Vegas nerve stimulator and red light therap uh two devices that our employees I can tell you in the police department uh in our Dispatch Center they'll handle traumatic calls they go on a break they use these devices it enables them to clear their mind and we've had a lot of uh positive feedback from our employees on the items mayor council uh Rob dougen fire chief just want to follow up a little additional context we we had previous donation this almost 12 months ago uh from the benefactor Rich Ganley from positive impact Alliance uh that donated this equipment and additional uh C tub therapy and also uh saunas and we conducted a six-month pilot pretty comprehensive quantitative and qualitative and I'm happy to report after that 6 months there's been significant reports of improvements on both physical and emotional health as a result of the pilot uh we were able to track usage and employees that stuck with the program noticed quite a bit of decreased discomfort from inflammation uh workout recovery and even emotional uh General support and sleeping so it's want to continue this extending uh additionally to additional group of employees uh particularly for the Vegas nerve uh stimulator um and also the red light panel for employees in the Dispatch Center to have better access to some of these modalities that we believe will have a tremendous impact to their their physical and emotional health and Council has provided a lot of support previously for the employees and members in this space and look forward to continued support uh from Council uh to continue to bring forward modalities that make it healthier for our employees so just bringing forward another opportunity to continue the trend and I also wanted to point out the generosity that Rich has has done this because this being on consent agenda I didn't think it should just go by with not being noticed the man has been very generous to this town and what he's doing is going to be good for people and I just I wanted there to be a recognition of that rather than have it just accepted and and no notice public notice of be to be made of it he's he's done well for us and he's a good man and I just wanted to say that thank you Chiefs yeah I completely agree um thank you for not letting this go by Rich Ganley is uh amazingly generous with this community and these um these options are really helping our firefighters and police officers I've spoken to so many that feel better physically are sleeping better it really is making quite a difference so anything that we can do to give our employees another opportunity is just fantastic I might it after tonight would you like to make a motion council member torguson I move to accept item 17 as written I have a motion by council member torgus and seconded by council member Buckley please vote there we go Motion passes 70 big thanks to Rich gley item 23 council member torguson um I realize that there's a few levels of this and uh I believe there's a gentleman from uh that was in charge of this for the CIP I wanted to see the history of this since it was on a an agenda six or eight weeks ago and it's back uh do we have somebody uh from there to to speak on this and to help me guide through this as a heritage project thing Heritage District thing I found the right button this time uh mayor council uh we have a present a short presentation um tonight about uh this agenda item number 23 um so just going back to the project scope um this was the original 2020 scope that was put into the capap program um just some of the uh Redevelopment plan that was adopted in 2018 and the original description was to enhance and beautify the raised medians on Gilbert Road between Juniper Avenue and Elliot um which would include additional landscaping foilage and lighting and artwork and then at that time there were some uh plans and guidelines that were approved the Heritage District guidelines Shaden Street master plan Heritage District Place marking and way finding guidelines and in addition to the circulation study 2023 so this is looking at the big picture of all the different things were going on in the Heritage District um at that time and in between from current and 2020 um just some points of emphasis of the project coordination there's a lot of different projects going on in the Heritage District right now and here's some of the planning um we have the Heritage North median improvements that's going to be development driven that we've been coordinating with a developer um there on the east side of Gilbert Road just south of juniper pr1 1328 and St 2122 will be coordinated along with this project but those are currently separate projects but they will have the same um design consultant um as this project um the medium project in addition to that we have the Union Pacific Railroad there's some improvements that are required for us to do some improvements um to the railroad and in addition to that St 1320 Gilbert and Elliot intersection which is slated for FY 28 so all these play kind of a role um from where we were and to where we're at currently um some of the immediate needs um is the I'm not sure if that ski no um is Heritage North development again talking to the Developers this was part of the original scope and last time we brought this to council we did some more coordination with the developer and the developer will be doing their own half Street improvements um adjacent to this this lot in downtown Gilbert and then also again the the UPR Crossing that is uh still in this um scope of this project moving forward I think we were missing I'm not sure what happened all right I'm going to have to go off a memory here um looks like we're missing some slides on this um So currently in the scope is we we took some feedback from Council and uh we decided to do a design concept report a DCR within this area and what that DCR will give us is the opportunity to be able to take a step back and look at all these different plans um and guidelines that are currently in the Heritage district and to be able to come up with a better plan um currently how it works is we have a so I was on a roll there too so okay so unfortunately you're not going be able to see this but uh so our current contract or the the contract before that we took the council was just over 400,000 and that include everything from Elliot Road to um the Juniper Avenue and so since then um actually let me let me go forward so currently the contract is 999,000 so went from over 400,000 to 999,000 we're doing a DCR as I was talking um part of the DCR is to be able to again take that step back and be able to holistically look at everything that's going on in the Heritage District what the function of this project truly is um because when we start a design phase without the the pre-design phase we have to try to include everything that's anticipated for this area but this predesign phase the DCR will give let us have that opportunity to be able to look at everything if there if there's anything needed from all these different guidelines and circulation plans and different things make sure we're not missing anything as part of this DCR in addition to that the railroad is coming in and we have to uh expedite some plan review for that um and get some construction documents so that'll take the medians on both the North and South side of the UN Pacific Rail Road and take that to 100% plan so we can actually um install the medians before the railroad gets there because if we wait for the railroad to come in they're going to have their own plan with the Canever and all these different lights things that we don't necessarily want in the Heritage District um so this will be ex part of this 999,000 will be able to expedite that piece um of the railroad we did remove the piece from Elliot Road um to the railroad track and that's going to be a future project for Gilbert Road um because typically we're doing um not get into the design of that but we're that's going to affect about a thousand feet in each Direction of the Gilbert and Elliot intersection so whatever we do now in that area will basically be removed in the future so we want to have any throwaways so we remove that piece off of this as well um so what you see here tonight 99,000 um that is encompassing the entire project again taking a step back and and um getting a better approach to what is truly needed um out here once we understand that then we'll come back to council um which maybe I have this one on my next one um is the next step steps so tonight is the approval of design concept report and then the future steps um is we'll come back to council and uh will'll go from 15% design concept report to 100% plan so that'll be a change order to the original plans or I'm sorry the original contract come back to council and take this from a concept of 15% to 100% um design plans so again just taking a better approach at this taking a step back and making sure we're crossing all of our eyes and crossing the eyes and dotting dotting yes sorry we know what you meant yes um then with that I think there any questions you know is it and just because of being the liais onto the Heritage district and having history with it would you say that Economic Development was one of the champions of this particular yes absolutely 100% yes would you mind if I ask Dan Henderson a few questions no Dan may but I don't that was a great line Thank you thank you for the levity Dan may but I don't I don't think Dan will mind either good evening mayor and Council I want you know from your perspective and what we've talked about over the last several years at one point let's say eight weeks ago I think we looked at this and it was well over $3 million and now it's down at H 100,000 can you explain our disc you know your memory of our discussion and how we got here today certainly mayor uh Council uh council member Tuson um I think Ryan um captured sort of that project history really really well um just kind of backing up you know when we look at sort of foundational elements related to Downtown Development things like cleaning green and safe are um are foundational for a vibrant downtown and these foundations um draw additional investment tourism as we've talked about um and um in an area that has over 5 million visits a year um this beautification project as as Ryan talked about um for the medians gives us that opportunity to bring um art um enhanced landscape and other elements into into the median and I think Ryan did a great job of talking about where we were previously with this particular item um and where we are today basically we've taken a step several steps back to the initial point the scope kind of creeped out of control and it's back down to $100,000 is what it sounds like right well if if I might mayor council member Tuson um as it relates to scope creep um I can't really talk specific about that but certainly um the needs in the Heritage District have evolved and I think um Ryan when he talked about um the developer contributions in this particular area certainly that that um is an element that um that we're excited that um as growth build you know sort of pays for itself the opportunity for the developer to step in and pay for their half Road you know Improvement so to speak um I wouldn't necessarily call it scope creep per se but I would just say you know as we really looked at um the programmatic elements to this particular request of council um I think we've evolved sort of that that perspective come to understand some things as Ryan talked about um and um and this is where we're at today and delighted that this contract is before you at around 999,000 thank you coun member Kowski uh my understanding is that the $3 million was the line item for the construction costs and by doing a design concept report at this stage this is pre-design work that will then be able to narrow down what is actually going to be designed cuz typically when you're just designing a typical Road there's like a typical cross-section but this is pretty unique in terms of there's probably a lot more options that have to be thought through and gone over um and so will the design concept report also include a revised cost estimate for some of the elements that are then identified through that process yeah mayor council yeah absolutely so that's the the the beauty I guess of a design concept report is because then you can actually get that actual cost of what that that those improvements could be um that three that three million that we're talking about that could go up that could go down it just depends on what comes out of that design concept report um so that's what we're we're looking for within lighting the median the Landscaping whatever that looks like we're going to understand that more fully so we can have a better estimate will um will public involvement or presentations to the Redevelopment commission be part of the process the design concept report uh mayor council I believe there are some uh different um meetings set up that will be part part of that I I can get back with you on who those groups are with but I believe there was some involving that thank you you're welcome any other questions so Ryan um explain to me why we add medians to go Gilbert Road and I'm going to tell you why it irks me when we do the Gilbert Days parade that we have medians down Gilbert Road and I've probably said it every single time I've participated in a parade which is uh every year except 2020 um why do we add medians to Gilbert Road part of the Heritage District plan I know for Heritage North it's because the driveways are not going to line up between Heritage North and the businesses across the street can you speak to any of that um I can take a Saab at it um so our standard on it a minor AR yeah minor arterial is medians along there and that's for safety standpoint of keeping the um the the the direction or the travel Direction safe from traffic going one way and the other um in addition to especially in the Heritage District you don't want a lot of crazy u-turns or different things that could happen in there on a very tight um stretch of a roadway so really it's a it's a safety issue and a standard from the town of gilber okay again it irks me every time we do the Gilbert days pray try and have a band come down one side of Gilbert Road with just saying um would anybody like any other questions for Ryan at this time would anyone like to take a shot at a motion I'll move to approve item 23 I'll make a second so I have a motion by council member Koski seconded by council member torguson please vote motion passes 70 thank you Ryan thanks for being a good sport and answering the questions and the levity appreciate that next vice mayor item 26 council member forguson uh I actually don't need a presentation I got my answers not long ago you want to make a motion motion I'll make a motion to accept item 26 as written we have a motion by council member torus and seconded by council member Buckley please vote motion passes 70 next item 30 council member torguson I'm going to do it again I just want to hear someone take responsibility here and say these things are a uh 30 and 31 that there are no clawback strings attached and aderes to all the policies we have in place regarding taking grants mayor council members Melanie Dyer I'm the volunteering Community Resources manager so the grant that you're looking at is an opportunity for us to receive funding from our tribal Nations um each of these through the state compact they allow um or actually require that money is given back to communities um from their revenues and they have the opportunity to do that individually through a 12% process many um provide applications that you apply for and we did that on behalf of our Native American management internship program as well as our Victim Advocacy internship program and so we are receiving funding directly for support of those opportunities for students and then we are also um taking in funds from the tribe to support three outside organizations because other nonprofits do have to be sponsored by a municipality in order to accept the funds um so we actually then really just literally are a pass through for those funds so they will um if the council approves the it tonight then I will send it back to the tribe and then they will actually cut a check give it to Gilbert we get invoiced by the three outside entities we deliver the check to them and then that is the extent of Our obligation um in our internal for accepting the funds on behalf of our programs uh we are required to submit a midyear and an annual report to the tribe just talking about our accomplishments and how the funds were used in support of the programs and that we met our objectives and that is the entirety of the program I appreciate you taking your evening just to say it and good job thank you I'll make a motion to accept that if nobody wants to speak second you want to do 30 and 31 yeah 31 I want to hear all separately he wants to hear separately it's a different project okay so we have a motion on 30 by council member tus and seconded by council member tilki please vote motion passes 70 next 31 May Council Mike aad again from the police department uh just commenting on item number 31 here this is the Edward burn Memorial Justice assistance grant um there is no clawback on this particular Grant it's actually named after a police officer that was murdered in 196 66 in New York uh they started up this Grant and we've been receiving these Grant funds for years basically what happens is uh they're derived from Washington DC but they arrive in the state of Arizona based on a formula it has to do with population and the amount of crime that occurs in any given State those funds sit with the state if we want to accept them based on our population and crime rate we may or we may uh defer them in which case they would go to neighboring jurisdictions and they would get a bigger piece of the pie but our only requirement in terms of reporting is to let uh the federal government know how many crimes occur annually which is something that we've done historically the entire time I've been with the town it's something that's industry standard among all police departments right thank you you understand my trepidation when I see Department of Justice and things we've seen out of it so I appreciate you taking your time to explain what our role in it is thank you yes sir would you like to make a motion I make a motion to accept 31 as written second I have a motion by council member Tuson seconded by vice mayor Anderson please vote motion passes 70 that completes the consent calendar mayor thank you moving on to administrative items one item on our administrative calendar discussion and update from the community engagement task force council member tilki thank you mayor um our task force met last night and received uh presentations from Parks and wreck on opportunities for teens so I'd just like to mention a few of those for the public so that they know that we are we have some programs available today um we have a service learning program which we have 44 participants in child and babysitting safety training 115 participants sports and recreation Arts crafts and creativity um our recreation centers at Freestone and McQueen both have teen spaces in in the their lobbies with pool tables fball table tennis TVs and you don't have to be a member to be able to go in and take advantage of that um I believe they tried in the past to have a private room for teens and that didn't work out but when they moved it out in the lobby we seemed to have a lot more participants coming in um we have a junior lifeguard program 183 three participants swim lessons Aqua size classes special events like H2O Fest and Nerf wars those two are pretty popular with the teens and then we have different event volunteer opportunities for those 14 and older in the past we tried to do some Esports egaming but um we were dealing with an outside vendor so the cost was a little more than um I think some could afford so we're looking at how we can make that more accessible in the future um we also had a a open gym at nights at or days at Freestone Park um felt that maybe it was a little too structured so they're looking at ways to make that a little more welcoming um I think even uh Robert mentioned earlier that when we did all of the Outreach in the community for parks and rec uh youth was a big part of that and um one thing that we notice is if you put food they will come so it's something we might want to consider in the future um a few things that we're exploring is how do we meet teens where they are and so um exploring Cross City e-gaming tournaments drop in teen nights like sports games video game tournaments teen trips and pizza was added on that list too um so uh those are some of the things that we talked about we also um explored what other communities are doing and a lot of them I believe has started new programs so we really don't have a lot of data to see how successful they are yet um and then as we were um looking at all of these we acknowledged that um there are a lot of faith communities that have teen programs that we probably need to learn a little bit more about as well as school-based programs um we do have on our website gilbertaz.gov uh teen resource programs on there so we've added that page um we also heard from the police youth um engagement programs um so they they were uh received a lot of the data that we've received recently on some of the um challenges and and data points um the youth engagement programs have a new tagline listen build and empower um and so they learned similar to what we heard last time about the Heritage District parking security online reporting systems and uh C curfew um enforcements um youth engagement also talked about some ongoing programs and I'm really just mentioning this so the public will understand we have all these so I'm almost done um Aspire Academy Gilbert Youth Leadership Academy Gilbert PD Cadet program monthly Community engagement events sensory awareness family events and of course we have our student government and the mea's youth advisory Council um and then they received a overview of Partnerships with all of the outside agencies that we we currently work with so uh I think that that's going to conclude all of the research that we were needing and our next meeting is November fourth where we're going to um focus on initiating these recommendations that we're going to be bringing back to Council in December so that's our update thank you for all that information I think that well my daughter's 30 and she's used to say the same thing there's nothing for teens to do in Gilbert right I said there you mentioned a lot of different things that I think people just don't know exist out there but a lot more can be done too into the future and you're right feed them and they will come right council member Tuson did you have something to add or is you just your mic gone okay just checking just want to make sure then moving on to Communications from citizens vice mayor thank you mayor we value the participation of our community members in the robust exchange of ideas however it's essential that this discourse remains respectable and constructive reflecting the professionalism expected in such forums while we understand and appreciate the passion our community members bring to these sessions we must remind everyone that clapping during the meeting is not acceptable also playing of music or showing videos May subject the town to copyright infringement it is not allowed as your name is called please come up to the podium state your name and your place of residence your city of residence and you'll have three minutes to speak at the podium first up tonight is Susan borea Susan will be followed by Dan Reynolds mayor I'm vice mayor and Council my name is Susan boria I'm a resident of Adora trails in Barry South Gilbert um I'm relatively new to the community I left my home state of New Jersey in 2017 and moved into my Brandy new home in door trails in 2018 so I don't have all of the history or the knowledge of what's transpired in the Town previously nor do I know how to garden here and my beloved Tomatoes I can't seem to grow them but um I've been to enough meetings to know that very often the council members receive criticism from this Podium and quite frankly some of it has appalled me um an example being that at one meeting um someone said that there was blood on your hands um it just makes my heart sink when I hear things like that um in reference to that particular issue I feel that if we had less soft parenting and less kids will be kids more consequences and um personal responsibilities some of those issues we wouldn't be dealing with but I wanted to be um sure that you heard from this Podium that there are residents in the town of Gilbert who very much appreciate all the time the effort the real consideration of issues on our behalf and um that's basically it I just wanted to say thank you and I wanted to say thank you before the end of the year when the council changes that's it thank you sir Dan Reynolds Dan will be followed by Bridget Vega mayor councel Dan Reynolds a citizen for long time 30 some years um I'm hoping you guys miss me I've been gone for a little bit but uh I want to talk about a couple things um I want to tell you a little story about your current fire chief and after I'm done with the story I'm going to tell you the reason why I'm telling the story but before that I don't know how aware you guys are it's come to light just recently with me but our electric fire truck has been having some problems and I don't know if you guys know that I happen to be pretty aware of it being a former employee of the fire and Station 2 is my first due so it's super important to me that that truck is out of service way too much the reason I bring this up is um under the understanding that we're going to be um ordering some more I have nothing against electric fire trucks but I think there should be some more uh studies done or some time to make sure that these are the trucks that we should be having here and that could be 10 or 15 years just like cars so I just want to make sure you guys are aware of that if you want to look into see how how long that thing or how many uh what percent that is out of service I think it's worth you guys to look into it okay let tell you a little story about Chief Rob Dugen um 30 years ago he had a friend that was on my crew Rob worked in Cass Grand As A Firefighter and wanted to work in Gilbert so the guy on my crew said hey I got a guy that wants to come ride with us because he wants to be a firefighter here I said sure So we had a ride alone program we invited him he probably rode with us I don't even know how many times but a lot and we took him on calls and we went to training and we did lots of stuff and he stayed there for hours and hours and hours sometimes all day um at some point I started having some people come up and say hey who's this guy that's with you a lot riding and and and whatnot so I told him who he was told him where he worked and one of the feedbacks I had was this guy's kind of arrogant um and not really a big fan of him and I said told me some more information I said okay so next time Rob came I invited Rob into my office and said you need to start shaking people's hands you need to put a smile on your face and need to introduce yourself because people have a bad um kind of a they they don't like your appearance they they think that you rub the wrong way so um he took that information and he did something about it now the reason I'm telling you this story real quick um is because and he'll tell you this story if if if you think there's anything about this that doesn't sound right please ask him um but the reason I bring this up is because I'm still getting a little bit of feedback that you've got disgruntled employees here that are saying stuff because they're disgruntled I am far from disgruntled when he'll tell you that story and I've heard him repeat the story he says I'm the guy responsible for him getting a job here so let that sink in I appreciate your time let your conscience be your guide thank you thank you Dan Bridget Bridget will be followed by Jenny Jones good evening mayor and counsel Chief and Banger you don't get to continually to look the other way on this issue as we work with assistant chief and the youth engagement officer to try to bridge the gap by being proactive to prevent this from happening again your leadership specifically Chief soberg and Chuck continued to perpetuate this Behavior by in validating the victim's community and the reality of teen violence Chief you appointed Jim to be the bridge to rebuild the trust by much like throwing your Patrol under the bus now you're dismantling the trust Jim is trying so hard to build with the community while you guys are focused on categorizing break and breaking down the data children are still getting assaulted asants are walking the streets free unbothered classifying violence for data reporting and putting it into categories is resourceful if you're learning from mistakes implementing policy change training material and prevention awareness to ensure the community is safe the continual gaslighting and the dismissive comments have to stop Chuck deflecting by saying that the arson wasn't teen on teen violence is exactly how and why the goons FL flourished changing categories doesn't make it different it just pulls wool over the citizens eyes again Chuck the teen boys lit a barn on fire burned it down and thank God the teens got out of that Barn alive it has been nearly over a year and it's time to take a clear stand against violence otherwise this will continue to spiral it's time for transparency we demand that Gilbert PD releases the unredacted reports for Tristan kener and Connor Jarnigan including the body cam footage to the boy's lawyers it has again nearly been a year since Preston was murdered what is the plans Gilbert for Halloween parties enforcement on unruly Gatherings and curfew this weekend according to Arizona Central 95 asants have been counted through video 18 have been arrested in random attacks and only 14 have been charged 12 pleaded guilty seven in Preston's case all pleaded not guilty what are the police in Town's plans on holding the other asants accountable including those in active gangs as many fail to recognize that Gilbert has a gang issue we have a duty to protect the innocent and rise up for the children thank you Jenny Jones Jenny it will be followed by Carissa Arnold Jenny Jones um I just wanted to start off by saying that I don't believe that Gilbert is safe um if you would have asked me a year ago even six months ago I would have said yeah absolutely I believe all the hype that Gilbert's one of the safest communities in the country unfortunately we were targeted by the teen violence and my whole perspective on that has changed I no longer feel safe in Gilbert to the point where our family has contemplating moving out of state because of the um what's been done What's led these children teens on the tra trajectory that they have been on um I feel like Gilbert has put on a facade and too many people in the community have believed that facade and nobody's willing to look at the deeper issues and make real changes to protect our community to be the safest uh we need to be holding these kids accountable and we haven't for so long that uh one of the Gilbert goons went on an interview and told it um in the interview he discussed how they mock the Gilbert Police that they would see Gilbert police at the In-N-Out and turn their heads and not do anything those kids they laughed at them they knew that they could get away with it I believe that's the same case with the boys involved in our rson and attack our daughter was threatened and they fulfilled that threat by attacking our home and he's probably going to get probation only because it's his first offense and it's only his first offense because of mistakes made in the police department and so and I've also had to um f complaints against other officers who have made mistakes like we shouldn't be having this many mistakes if we're touting that we're the safest Community um it's also made me feel like it's hard to trust you know people in power over the community I don't know any of you guys but it did really feel like an attack when those comments were made saying that the our attack was not considered teen on teen violence when the boys are being charged with four counts of endangerment with the imminent risk of death imminent risk of death that means very possible death right that's violent to me so that it did feel very personal I didn't feel like that was appropriate to be said um also that another article came out saying that um we're having record number of teen charged with aggravated assaults and misconduct with weapons um in the Maricopa County so there definitely is this is a problem going on right now and it uh a psychologist who's been specializing in this said Behavior doesn't just happen there's a pathway a trajectory that leads towards behavior and when the wool is being pulled over every or when things are not being happening and the children the teens are mocking the police and not being held accountability that we're seeing the trajectory that happens because of that so I'm just asking for some change in accountability transparency thank you Carissa thank you Carissa will be followed by Steve Laval thank you for your time this evening as we've continued to come to you month after month and ask you to take teen violence seriously it continues to be downplayed statements from Mr Bon Giovani on Facebook made it very clear when he said what happened happened Chief made it clear when he tried to downplay the teen violence crimes and his his most recent media interview this despite the recent barnfire and despite a teen being lured out of his home and swarmed in beaten just three to four weeks ago he said there had been no swarming with teen on teen violence please tell me how that happens how this statement is accurate just last month the Arizona state supreme court gathered officials to have the discussion about teens committing violent crimes 2024 set a record in teens charged with aggravated assaults kids are angry mental health institutions are constantly at maximum capacity and suicide Remains the leading cause of death for kids here in Arizona Rachel M Mitchell's office cited a 350% increase in first-degree murder and 100% 108% increase in aggravated assaults among teenagers we have kids hurting hurt people end up hurting people this is an epidemic that must be taken seriously or we will watch more kids die this town is fully aware that there are multiple gangs operating in its presence this town is aware that the number of guns circulating among our youth sorry is aware of the number of guns circulating among our youth just look at the videos at the recent car attacks the kids were holding guns ready to shoot a homeowner as they came out of their home just a little over a decade ago this town was not ashamed to admit that there was a concern over gangs and in fact Gilbert schools invited your detectives to evaluate the challenges they faced regarding gangs and drugs in the school system the information gathered showed approximately four to six four to six gangs operating in this town the difference between then and now is that there was a clear open admission to gangs being a problem teen drug use and violence was a recognized issue today this town wants to shove it under the rug as though it doesn't exist we live in the state with the highest import of fentanyl in the country country in the country with fentanyl and drug use comes violence kids are driving out to the out from the West Valley to the East Valley to come party because of the easy access to drugs and alcohol and we've heard this directly from officers to think that this town would be exempt from crime occurring and neighboring the same crime that's occurring in a neighboring cities is foolish in fact you if you had figured out a way to eradicate the crime Not only would other cities be coming to you for help but you would be shouting it all over the media the point is be real admit that there is a problem and work to figure out a way to resolve it and as this young woman said over here we do need accountability for our kids because without accountability happening the problem will only grow and get worse thank you Steve of all Steve would be followed by Jason tamura good evening Council uh what can I say uh I sent you an email um only one of you actually responded to me none of you answered any of my questions but thank you council member bonon for answering or for at least responding uh let's see you've raised my water rates and now you've raised my taxes but you can't answer my emails so it's funny your uh fire chief he wants to to do all this stuff with your your your building of your buildings and all that stuff and the $98 million and you're raising me taxes and I'm telling you he's building four of those stations he's just changing bathrooms in them because he has a transgender that's using female restrooms and you guys refuse to do anything about it but you you cannot deny it anymore it's out there it's in the public um he goes down to the uh gay pride parade in Phoenix I wrote you guys about that thank you for not letting him bring a fire truck but he still drove his pickup truck pickup trucks a asset he used that town asset to go all the way down to Phoenix and uh I'm paying for that and I know that won't cover the taxes you just raised on me but why am I paying for that as a taxpayer why is that asset going all the way to Phoenix for a gay pride parade and why is this government trying to push sexuality on the citizens you have no business doing that that's not government's role but you didn't want to tell the government you didn't want to tell the citizens excuse me you didn't post it with your your award-winning office of digital government you didn't let the people know you were going down there so let me read you when your office of digital government did post something about the pride parade let me read the responses your engagement numbers that Patrick likes to break about children don't belong at Pride events uh isn't this the same Department that got upset uh about A Thin Blue Line flag was being flown how much was spent participating in this event uh why is that young child holding a backpack supporting testing for HIV and a why are we broadcasting this they deleted that photo because they obviously knew it was wrong that's a response to the other one so they delete the photo they know they're doing wrong they put a photo up and then they remove it h they're not fooling the citizens uh if you want to celebrate the people like you take home into your beds leave children out of it and with that do it on your own dime this is a tax dollars and hardworking Americans let's go on as an a a gay why the hell are my public tax dollars paying for this huh pride has no peace excuse me pride has no place in a society now we achieved full equality under the law and this then sum in 2015 I'll be waiting to see you participate in the Christian or Mormon parade no hm why not uh let's see oh this is this is really a good one comment mment section shows you you are doing the wrong thing that's your comments the majority of comments 90% of those comments on that post are negative now you talked about Courage the courage you guys had to raise my taxes but you don't have the courage to stop the wokeness that Patrick Baner has done and I'll leave you with this the reason why you have so many projects and you're raising my taxes is cuz he and his leadership team are nothing but a bunch of yes people so when he wants something they say yes there's no challenges to your plans thank you thank you Jason good evening mayor vice mayor councel uh my name is Jason chura I live at 3524 East Oakland Street in Lions Gate um I'm here before you uh on behalf of my community the uh construction firm Tilson is overbuilding our neighborhood and is doing a very poor job of managing it um I come from the background of doing this work as well and uh seeing what's happened is uh really bad the company that they've hired from out of state uh lonar has uh hit gas lines that were marked uh they have blown out uh garbage in our yards and in addition to that um there's questions to them leaving potholes open overnight and uh frankly our neighborhood looks really bad and you know how large lion gate is so um I we have tons of pictures I'll send you all not very satisfied it took uh so their response time is supposed to be 48 hours from tulson it took me 5 days to get a response from them and in addition to that uh when I talked to the gentleman he stated that he is trying to work with the contractor to make sure things got taken care of well that's that's not good enough right I know purr and Patrick knows this too gigap power has a license here in the city to operate and to follow by the the city or Town's uh uh guidance uh according to that and I don't don't believe they're doing the right things so I'm just asking uh that that gets rectified because it's not and we've we've taken a big hit a big hit in our community so I just wanted to share that with you all and I expect tson to do better in our city because here's the deal we talk about the money we're spending that's costing us a lot of money right I mean Patrick and I know your guys' teams are trying to manage that we shouldn't be having to manage people who want to come and bring us service and not do a good job thank you thank you I was going to suggest Patrick that uh you have staff but it sounds like you're already doing that contacting him thank you just a reminder to the council something that uh the clerk's office included at the conclusion of communications from citizens the council May respond to criticism asked staff to review a matter or ask that a matter be put on a future agenda and council member banani thank you mayor uh Jennifer I want to apologize if you took my comment as offensive I was the I don't know if I was the only council member but I called you today after the fire to make sure that you and your family was okay the last thing I've ever wanted to do is upset you council member Bon Giovani yes I'm sorry to interrupt but we really and I know Chris Payne's looking in our way you have to keep your comments General okay not specific to a person okay thank you TR is that right thank you okay thank you forget about that but don't forget about what I said um I my comment was was basically talking about classification I I don't make the classification rules I don't know if it's the FBI or the police or the the the statistics that that do that um my comment was arson is arson it wasn't teen fighting teen and when you take a look at data if you put the data in wrong um it can have effects to how you create programs around there we could call everything teen violence um and we won't be able to dive down into the data this this town lives on data um so my my comment to anyone out here uh was not in effect to you personally in your situation I care deeply about your situation and I hope you could tell that from my phone call um but we just have to document things correctly so we can take a look at how we can take that data and make decisions from it I don't make the categorizations I was just clarifying the claric the categorization that was mentioned that's it thanks any other comments at this time council member Tason uh one thing I would love if staff could follow up and give me a uh a service record of the electric fir TR I would like that uh there has been an inquiry as to the cost of the pride parade which is seems to be about $865 uh and uh I wanted to say thank you to anybody that said uh good things about us from behind the dis for once any other comments at this time seeing none we will move on to our agenda items future meetings two items on future meetings Council Retreat item related to status update I'm assuming this topic will be on the retreat in November thank you I tried to pull up your email to double check that and I just couldn't find it thanks Patrick and then meet and conferred follow-up discussion for 2025 moving on to Communications report from the town manager thank you mayor members of the council give a second to pull up the slides okay if we could advaned to the next slide want to start with congratulations to Tyler and car car carmalita uh the household hazardous materials Olympics event took place in Austin Texas it's an obstacle course in relay race that tested both skill and safety awareness participants had to unscrew Bolts from a 55 gallon drum push the drum on a dolly get dressed in fold PPE and roll a 55 gallon drum all while ensuring safety points were deducted or teams had to restart if tasks were done improperly or safety measures weren't observed and the results were Tyler unsel team won first place and carmalita Nichols team came in second place so congratulations to them they do great work for us and it's great to see them recognized next slide October is National Co Code Compliance month National Code Compliance month shines a light on the significance of adhering to local laws and safety standards ensuring communities are safe clean and thriving local governments celebrate this month to recognize the efforts of Code Enforcement Officers and to raise awareness about the role these regulations play in maintaining public health and safety it's a nod to the silent Guardians who keep neighborhoods and orderly orderly and livable we certainly appreciate our code enforcement team that works very hard in this area for our community with that that's all I have thank thank you mayor thanks Patrick moving on to report from the council council member B all right so the F FRC Bo bash uh come show off your costumes at freest Stone Recreation boo bash engage in arts and crafts games and flatables in a penan zoo pre-registration is required and limited to the first 300 registrants this event will take place Friday October 25th from 5:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m sign up today the snowvember popup party bundle up for snow bundle up for snow much fun at the M uh McQueen Park Activity Center on Sunday November 9th at 10 AM you can get Co you can get cozy building an edible Snowman and sipping hot cocoa while we make a few snoow inspired crafts get ready to watch it snow with a with an indoor uh snowball fight and to round off the fun step inside step outside for our grand finale foam snowstorm it's snow wonder you you won't want to miss out on this cool time sign up online today I didn't write that by the way we knew that um council member cpri in just over two weeks um on Friday November 8th the town will be SE having their Veterans Day ceremony at the Gilbert Regional Park um I believe that's in the morning actually it's here at Town Hall Sor Town Hall okay great uh so here at Town Hall the Veterans Day ceremony in the morning Friday November 8th that evening is the next Gilbert Symphony concert and its theme is Veterans Day theme as well it'll be opening With The Star Spangled Banner and also have a salute to Veterans um so there are a couple of events there for Veterans Day thank you anyone else council member tilki thank you mayor um I think I have a couple slides so I just wanted to make sure the public knows that we have the general election on November 5th and there's some information there and if you go to the next slide um I think it's really important important that um everybody understands that we do have a DropBox here at the municipal um here we are Town Hall we're going to call it um and so if you have your mail and ballot you can drop it off and then we have an actual voting Center over at the North Area service center on Juniper um you can also scan the QR code to get other locations including polling locations is that correct y good all right and um just a reminder that there are um three items on the on your long ballot that impact Gilbert uh proposition uh 497 permanent base adjustment proposition 498 capital projects accumulation fund and then Cada for one council member seat so we ask you to get out and vote and there's more information online thank you anyone else no okay then it'll move to report for mayor so I have also a couple of sides we have Gilbert's domestic violence awareness night that will be held this coming Thursday October 24th at 5:00 p.m. right here at Gilbert town hall right outside on the lawn and following that I have my um report that I've been offering which shows what I've been doing this one's four weeks long because we've haven't met since 9:24 so this covers four weeks of where I've been and what I've been doing the meetings that I've been tending and again it doesn't include any of the meetings that I do internally with staff or a couple meetings that I've held outside or any of the reading or um packet studies that I have to do for the meeting that I attend do I have another slide or is that it that's it right um moving on to some reports from that things that are going on council member Kowski covered our veterans Advisory Board having their veterans annual event on Friday November 8th here at Town Hall at 11:00 a.m. and um I want to say congratulations to Robert Carmona I don't know if Robert is still here oh you are I wanted to say it earlier but I didn't think it was appropriate timing Gilbert's parks in Rex director has been inducted as a fellow into the American Academy for Park and Recreation Administration one of the highest honors in the field so congratulations Robert for that over the past six years Robert has been instrumental in shaping Gilbert's Parks and Recreation landscape overseeing the development of Gilbert Regional Desert Sky and Cactus yards and our transition at Cactus yards was um very notable for us as a council so congratulations on that Robert wanted to share and to follow up a little on um council member tilky with the election it's very important that everybody please turn your ballots in if you haven't mailed them back last day of mail back is the 29th officially but if you would rather come and drop the ballots off to a ballot box right here in our lobby and at Juniper there's also a Ballot Box besides being able to vote in person this year I dropped mine in The Ballot Box here at Town Hall um just in case you don't trust the mail getting it where it needs to be this box gets emptied every day at 10:00 a.m. and will be open and available able through 700 p.m. on Election Day to drop your ballots that day and um um assistant chief M gangstead shared with us last night Maricopa County is over 9,000 square miles and there are 12 early polling locations and one of them is here in Gilbert so I just wanted to share that for the East Valley and for us in Gilbert where we have that location available for you to get out and vote before November 5th and if not get in line on November 5th and make sure you vote it's one of the most important things that you can do do um if you need help with your ballot please reach out I'm happy to answer questions um and it it's a very long ballot start at the end and work your way back to the beginning I think everybody wants to vote for president but nobody wants to get all the way to the end so I'm asking it to go backwards on your ballot two pages long and that's all I have for the evening so I will take a motion to adjourn so moved we have a motion by council member B B all in favor I where Jed we have birthday treats for Council me for vice mayor Anderson I gave him his card and